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Title: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: petehosk on June 21, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
Couldn't see a topic for this one. Thought it may need one as the match starts in a couple of hours!!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Look at how blonde we are now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC0yCleWAAAMmC3.jpg)

Looking forward to seeing the new players get a game
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: FattusCattus on June 21, 2017, 03:48:31 PM
who are these people?

?, Wood, ?, Willey, ?, Currant, Billings, Crane
Jordan, Roy, YJB, Skip, Butler, Overton, Plunks
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: IWTUK on June 21, 2017, 04:06:17 PM
I think it's:

Dawson, Wood, Malan, Willey, Livingstone, Curran, Billings, Crane
Jordan, Roy, YJB, Skip, Butler, Hales, Plunks



Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
The above is correct
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: golders on June 21, 2017, 04:13:06 PM
I hope Crane plays,he looks good from the bits I've seen,apart from that double bouncer/flipper!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
Morgan stated last night he play this evening and that all the uncapped players will get a game
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Not a bad start, haha
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 05:38:26 PM
Another one, hahaha
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 21, 2017, 06:01:35 PM
Wood bowling absolute gas here!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: justnotcricket86 on June 21, 2017, 06:19:54 PM
Crane looking the part.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 06:26:59 PM
Tidy spell from both him and Dawson
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: jamesisapayne on June 21, 2017, 06:42:41 PM
Is it me or does the match seem subdued?
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
It's 32 degrees. Yeah.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: jamesisapayne on June 21, 2017, 06:47:08 PM
It's 32 degrees. Yeah.

Fully aware of that.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 06:52:56 PM
So yeah, 142-3. I'll take that
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: InternalTraining on June 21, 2017, 06:53:29 PM
There is something written on the toe of ABD's bat. Anyone catch it?
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: petehosk on June 21, 2017, 07:03:38 PM
So yeah, 142-3. I'll take that

Commentators were saying that it should have really been 160-6!!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: csnew on June 21, 2017, 07:23:12 PM
If only this lad Roy playing in the semi final  :D
Was bound to happen wasn't it
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 21, 2017, 07:26:24 PM
So good to see Roy looking a little more like himself
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: roco on June 21, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I agree with polly

Why just why
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: GoodLeave on June 21, 2017, 07:28:29 PM
So good to see Roy looking a little more like himself

Yep  :D
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 21, 2017, 07:33:36 PM
I do wonder if some of these highly gifted players who can play 4 or 5 different shots to the same ball get bored unless they hype themselves up into a frenzy. There's no doubt Roy has bundles of natural talent and Hales does not look like he has to me but is more manufactured.

But Hales gets runs consistently, Roy doesn't.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: GoodLeave on June 21, 2017, 07:37:05 PM
Roy is a great batsman, we saw that in Parnells over. I just don't know why he tries too hard to do something different when smashing the guy down the ground is working.

Baffling.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 21, 2017, 07:54:01 PM
One of the buzz words I hear from England is 'strong position' which we can all use trying to improve scoring shots so he had that all orthodox for some Wonderful shots but the reverse lap was not a good position to get into .

He def has a lot of natural talent. I like him as a player

Bairstow I like even more.  :) don't matter what format he is one of the best in the Country.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: roco on June 21, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
I don't care who we drop bairstow has to be in starting xi in every format

Just rock form at mo and class
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: GoodLeave on June 21, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Taxi for Andile.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 21, 2017, 08:01:45 PM
I don't care who we drop bairstow has to be in starting xi in every format

Just rock form at mo and class

Dead on. Always rises to the occasion too, lad is unflappable.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: roco on June 21, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
His only weakness is being a ginger in hot weather it seems
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: edge on June 21, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
Bairstow leaves a teammate just short of a milestone in an easy win for the second time this summer! In a club match, the fines would be large.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 21, 2017, 08:11:52 PM
His only weakness is being a ginger in hot weather it seems

Careful snowflake, you don't want to offend someone ;)
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: roco on June 21, 2017, 08:24:22 PM
Careful snowflake, you don't want to offend someone ;)

Already been reported for being mean so I'm used to it

Not my fault he forgot his factor ranga sun lotion
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 22, 2017, 09:23:44 AM
https://twitter.com/OptaJim/status/877625275818942464

Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 23, 2017, 03:32:18 PM
Livingstone and Curran will both start today, anyone heard who's missing out?
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 23, 2017, 03:39:56 PM
Hales and Crane sit this one out, Billings up to open, Plunkett plays over Wood.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: six and out on June 23, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
Hales and Crane sit this one out, Billings up to open, Plunkett plays over Wood.

Rotation the name of the game in this series.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Mr_Orange on June 23, 2017, 03:48:46 PM
Rotation the name of the game in this series.

Wood was only available for the first game anyway.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: northernboy1987 on June 23, 2017, 03:56:46 PM
Rotation the name of the game in this series.

Absolutely, I wasn't suggesting they had been left out for any form related reasons, I think it's a great opportunity to give some of these younger lads a go, players like Hales etc. have played quite a lot of cricket already this year a night off won't do them any harm.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: alexhilly1492 on June 23, 2017, 04:11:06 PM
wow chris jordan is poor!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 04:15:47 PM
YES TOM CURRAN!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: liscon12 on June 23, 2017, 04:25:45 PM
3 Liam's playing today, when was the last time more than 3 players shared a first name?

Liam's must make decent cricketers  :D
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: liscon12 on June 23, 2017, 04:36:16 PM
Mosehle has changed his bat twice, each due to damage. Kook is his sponsor, first being a split right across the blade at the bottom of the splice, the second being toe damage.

Ian Ward claims the first broke due to storm damage, looked more like a poorly fitted handle to me.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: InternalTraining on June 23, 2017, 05:04:17 PM
That six by AB to fine leg!!! Sheesh! He is carrying the team right now.

And, poster's curse. AB is out. Dratz!!!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 05:25:51 PM
Beautiful from TC
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 23, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
3 Liam's playing today, when was the last time more than 3 players shared a first name?

Liam's must make decent cricketers  :D

I may be making this up, but weren't there 5 Mitchell's playing in an Australia Vs New Zealand game not that long ago?
(Johnson, Starc, Marsh, Santner & McClenaghan)
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 23, 2017, 06:31:35 PM
Great to see t20 at the Somerset ground, wicket looks a bit green after last years Sahara for the spinners

Bairstow with a lovely shaped bat(adidas?) and batting like he best batsman in the Country. Which he might just be  :)

I do like a bit of t20.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 06:32:26 PM
Bairstow is so good
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
What a joke of a 'dismissal'
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: liscon12 on June 23, 2017, 07:01:38 PM
Never seen one of those given for a while, going over to the other side of the wicket was the killer there for Roy
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 07:02:53 PM
Never seen one of those given for a while, going over to the other side of the wicket was the killer there for Roy

But under no circumstance was that deliberate
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: liscon12 on June 23, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
But under no circumstance was that deliberate
I think Roy knew he was never gonna get back if he just turned around and headed back
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: adampai on June 23, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
he looked at the fielder and then crossed to the other side of the wicket to put himself between the ball and the wicket. Seemed pretty deliberate to me as a neutral watching this one
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 23, 2017, 07:06:08 PM
But under no circumstance was that deliberate

Are we watching the same game? ???
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 23, 2017, 07:07:21 PM
Roy's moved to the other side of the pitch so he doesn't have to completely stop and turn round he maintains momentum by crossing the pitch
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: rickjames on June 23, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
But you see it happen all the time!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 23, 2017, 07:11:50 PM
Yeah Rick and we know you are with us England!! But to be fair mate Roy looked behind then put himself in the way, don't think there's any complaints really, umps got it right.

Tv keeps apologising for colourful language....rubbish get it all out there most of the kids know more swear words than we do!!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: pablomarmite on June 23, 2017, 07:12:53 PM
And livingstone defo hit that one onto his shoulder could hear double noise and snicko was clear and Bumble and Athers haven't mentioned it again!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 23, 2017, 07:14:02 PM
But you see it happen all the time!

Shoplifting happens all the time too, doesn't make it right...
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 23, 2017, 07:21:03 PM
And that kids is why you don't try to smash Yorkers out of the ground!  :(
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: pablomarmite on June 23, 2017, 07:32:20 PM
Great game. Don't want to sound harsh but Livingstone showed the gap between county and international level. Didn't seem to look comfortable in any way and his mind seemed scrambled. Cost England the game in the end.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 23, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
Dawson looked pretty good tbf - living stone was fairly awful, Roy got a bad decision IMO (similar to the stokes decision against australia) why livingstone was near the England set up I'll never know in all honesty. Poor from Morgan as well low full toss clothed to a fielder - we have given that one away - good game of cricket none the less.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: roco on June 23, 2017, 07:47:01 PM
Great game

Roy knew what he was doing you could tell

Morris looked fired up
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Kulli on June 23, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
why livingstone was near the England set up I'll never know in all honesty. 
I think that's pretty harsh, he's had a great winter for the lion and has had one tough innings in a tight finish in a T20 on his debut for his country, madness to write someone off on that basis IMO.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 23, 2017, 08:08:04 PM
Yea that's a bit tough, high pressure situation for the full side is different than lions cricket. You have to find out about the players after one game yes he didn't look great but it's just one game.

Huge plus Jason Roy back in some sort of form he's a very good player in a trot everyone has at some point. And YJB well just brilliant
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 23, 2017, 08:20:45 PM
I think that's pretty harsh, he's had a great winter for the lion and has had one tough innings in a tight finish in a T20 on his debut for his country, madness to write someone off on that basis IMO.

Not writing him off on one innings I've personally never really rated him as a player always thought he looks a bit confused and didn't really know his game.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 23, 2017, 08:22:13 PM
Not an easy situation to debut for Livingstone when chasing a steep target against a fired up SA..
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: alexhilly1492 on June 23, 2017, 08:22:50 PM
I wouldn't say yjb was brilliant tonight yes he was good but he got out chipping tamely at the key time with 6 overs left, it was his wicket that started the slide he was set in 47 and could have gone on, didn't need to play the shot.

But hey ho look at the positives, he hit 47 and looked in good touch as usual, Jason Roy is back in form and Tom curran bowled well!

Onto Cardiff
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on June 23, 2017, 08:24:04 PM
Think it was good of England to mix it up and try to blood some new players in a game that carried some weight and added pressure to them rather than winning the series and playing them in a dead rubber for example.

Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 23, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
Not an easy situation to debut for Livingstone when chasing a steep target against a fired up SA..

He came in when we needed 40 off 33 not really that big an ask for an international T20 and had an in form set Roy at the other end at the start of his innings. Anyway it's done now and was a good game and I thought phelukwayo bowled bloody well - Morris too
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Alvaro on June 23, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
England dropped some proper dollies
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Big Mac on June 24, 2017, 01:58:51 AM
Roy's moved to the other side of the pitch so he doesn't have to completely stop and turn round he maintains momentum by crossing the pitch

Spot on, that's why when you watch the best runners between wickets they run all the way around the stumps in a great big semi-circle so as to preserve their momentum when returning for the second run. It's like nobody on this forum watches cricket!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Woodyspin on June 24, 2017, 02:54:54 AM
Roy knew what he was doing you could tell

We all do it. And players still do, some are lucky not to get hit, some get hit by the balls miles away from the stumps so it doesnt matter. Everyone the jolt the oppositions decision making helps, had it not hit Roy there's no guarantee it would have actually hit anyway.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 24, 2017, 08:58:47 AM
Spot on, that's why when you watch the best runners between wickets they run all the way around the stumps in a great big semi-circle so as to preserve their momentum when returning for the second run. It's like nobody on this forum watches cricket!
@Big Mac brilliant sarcastic response. If it had grounds I'd be inclined to agree. You don't see great runners between the wicket doing it because they have to stop, touch their bat down, and then they can push off get low and run again, Roy was turning round mid pitch and would not have been able to turn as if taking a second run, him stoping would have cost him all momentum, then if we turn to physics we can see that to restart after stopping he must overcome all of the forces acting on him to then get going again and would have to accelerate up to a top speed. This would be slower than half turning and running as he did. Yes he covers more ground, but he maintains a good speed and thus doesn't lose momentum. Furthermore, when running for a second you slow down for the last few steps because you know your coming back for 2 thus making turning easier, in this case Roy was going all out and this would have made turning difficult. I suggest next time you take a closer look at the situation before trying to belittle.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: ppccopener on June 24, 2017, 09:16:45 AM
The umpire gets a couple of minutes to make the decision on the run out, have to say (and I posted earlier) pretty sure gut feeling was out at the time.

Having seen it again I'm now not as sure it was deliberate . The point I'm making is as mentioned by others no one really runs at full pelt in a straight line....

Wondering if anyone else if thinking differently having seen it a couple more times  :)
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Big Mac on June 24, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
@Big Mac brilliant sarcastic response. If it had grounds I'd be inclined to agree. You don't see great runners between the wicket doing it because they have to stop, touch their bat down, and then they can push off get low and run again, Roy was turning round mid pitch and would not have been able to turn as if taking a second run, him stoping would have cost him all momentum, then if we turn to physics we can see that to restart after stopping he must overcome all of the forces acting on him to then get going again and would have to accelerate up to a top speed. This would be slower than half turning and running as he did. Yes he covers more ground, but he maintains a good speed and thus doesn't lose momentum. Furthermore, when running for a second you slow down for the last few steps because you know your coming back for 2 thus making turning easier, in this case Roy was going all out and this would have made turning difficult. I suggest next time you take a closer look at the situation before trying to belittle.


Except he did stop, turned around and then run diagonally to make sure he was in the way of the throw. Don't give me this conservation of momentum codswallop, this isn't A-level Physics.

(http://i.imgur.com/kz3K6Wb.gif)

He stops, keeps his eyes locked on the fielder and the ball as he runs over to the other side of the pitch. Roy is still watching the fielder as he shapes to throw and Roy is still watching and running diagonally even as the ball is released.

Roy doesn't take his eyes off the ball and straighten his run until the throw is halfway to him and he's confident that he's positioned himself in the way of the throw.

Unless you're going to tell me that the quickest way to run is to do so while looking over your shoulder, in which case someone needs to have a word with Usain Bolt and tell him he could have shaved another 0.3 seconds off his personal best if he didn't wait until the last 15 metres of his races to have a look behind him.

The only way it could have been any more blatant is if Roy did a few keepie-uppies and then volleyed the ball towards the boundary before running away to celebrate a goal.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: GoodLeave on June 24, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Must admit, the more you watch it, the more guilty he looks...

Bit like deliberate handball on the goal-line. Keeper might save the pen and you've got away with it. He probably knew he was done for, but the umps might have given him the benefit of the doubt. Couldn't lose.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: addu84 on June 24, 2017, 03:45:12 PM
I am sorry but that is as deliberate as it gets. Worse bit is he was finally in some kind of form and England would have loved for him to hang around for a bit longer.
In any case, cannot feel any sympathy for him. Hope he is ashamed of his actions.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: six and out on June 25, 2017, 01:03:10 PM
England team for today

https://twitter.com/bbctms/status/878961178004918280
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: Woodyspin on June 25, 2017, 02:54:14 PM
Malan showing what a great player he has been for a number of years!
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: golders on June 25, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Livingston will be lucky to get another go anytime soon,looked completely scrambled.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: jimmy23 on June 25, 2017, 09:21:23 PM
Anyone else notice Smuts with Gray Nics gloves & bat but GM pads? Village.
Title: Re: Eng v SA T20 Series
Post by: GoodLeave on June 25, 2017, 09:24:39 PM
Anyone else notice Smuts with Gray Nics gloves & bat but GM pads? Village.

Did see Yuvraj wearing his neckguard upside down.

Just. Why?