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Companies => Custom companies => Laver & Wood => Topic started by: mo_town on December 13, 2017, 11:20:30 AM
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Great news for Crickets lovers in India.... Laver & Wood have opened their exclusive showrooms in India. Their showroom was recently inaugurated in Hyderabad.
http://www.laverwood.in/ (http://www.laverwood.in/)
The pricing has been done considering the Indian market and dare I say is very competitive! Its good to see brands taking the effort to expand operations globally. Just hope they can maintain the same quality that they are known for.
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I can't wait for a load of Indian market Lavers to appear on eBay for top dollar...
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Website gives the impression that all bats are made in NZ.
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Interesting description of grades on the indian site -
(http://www.laverwood.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Willow-Grading.jpg)
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Website gives the impression that all bats are made in NZ.
Yes, but for those prices and the expected volume demand, I would highly doubt that.
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Some of these smaller companies really will do anything to avoid calling a bat Grade 4.
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Laver's grading does wind me up, it is a little hard to resist the feeling that they were taking the piss when they came up with all that.
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Website gives the impression that all bats are made in NZ.
There is an 'indian range' and a 'new zealand range' . Signature and mega reserve were the only bats un the n.z range .
Also , the checkout only allows for shipments to indian addresses .
Won't be long though , and these bats will be ping testing balls , hitting a certain attic ceiling in the north of england ! ;)
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"Brute" is a nice shape.
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I can't wait for a load of Indian market Lavers to appear on eBay for top dollar...
Moody stickers too, no doubt.
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They will find it hard to compete on prices..Starting price is INR 15000 upwards while you can get a top grade bat at that price in other local brands
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They will find it hard to compete on prices..Starting price is INR 15000 upwards while you can get a top grade bat at that price in other local brands
Yes would have been better off opening in the UK guess they have gone for the bigger market.
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Yes would have been better off opening in the UK guess they have gone for the bigger market.
L&W pricing doesn't come close to other offers in the Indian market. SS, SG, RNS, KG, Protos, MRF, Champ, RS, DSC etc have very good options in the USD 200 to 250 range. SS LE, SG Sunny Tonny, Robinson Pro, Champ Elite, DSC condor flite etc fall in the range of 225 to 250 USD range. Laver legend (which is usually their G2 offering) is priced at 18000 INR i.e 240 USD(approx), seems a bit higher end of the pricing side. But its definitely cheaper than paying USD 299 + shipping for the same bat from NZ. So I am guessing L&W have done their market research before pricing each of these models for the subcontinent.
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I think the pricing is very competitive. L&W is positioning themselves as a luxury item. I dont think they are competing with SS, SG etc. and dont really want to go into mass production. Lower prices would mean lower quality which would in my opinion defeat the purpose of a boutique brand entering the Indian market.
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https://youtu.be/COHZR1gzhlY
Indian made Lavers now available at IJC
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You would think they would supply them in padded covers.
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Just seeing the ijc laver vid makes my impression of laver go down a looooong way .
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£600 for a reserve, :o
Signature direct is £600
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I don't get it, why would you buy an Indian made Laver reserve from IJC for £600 when you can have the real thing direct from Laver for a little under £400 at current exchange rates? Can't imagine this is what Laver intended, you wonder how involved they are in the 'exclusive distributor' business.
'I've never seen these before, they're still hand picked' rofl.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOhg6cHnNqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOhg6cHnNqE)
At 0:30 mark he talks about what's in the store. He also talks about ordering bats to be custom made in NZ and shipped back to India. Does the showroom really help with that? People can do the same over the web.
IJC doesn't specify which ones are made in India, do they? I think Brute is the only one that's made in India, rest are made in NZ. Regardless, it is a confusing message given to the market and ultimately, dilution of the brand.
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L&W pricing doesn't come close to other offers in the Indian market. SS, SG, RNS, KG, Protos, MRF, Champ, RS, DSC etc have very good options in the USD 200 to 250 range. SS LE, SG Sunny Tonny, Robinson Pro, Champ Elite, DSC condor flite etc fall in the range of 225 to 250 USD range. Laver legend (which is usually their G2 offering) is priced at 18000 INR i.e 240 USD(approx), seems a bit higher end of the pricing side. But its definitely cheaper than paying USD 299 + shipping for the same bat from NZ. So I am guessing L&W have done their market research before pricing each of these models for the subcontinent.
Whist I see your point and have had the opportunity to review many of the bats you identify as it's competition, I don't agree completely. These are mass production offerings, whilst Laver tries to appeal to the discerning cricketer. It's the luxury option. Who cares if it plays no better or worse then the others.
Mercedes continues to make some real lemon's though the 2000's to mid 2015 , but they represent a lifestyle, so they still sell plenty.
So the Indian market (and surrounding states) targeted is the players with cash (#i'm rich biatch) who can buy whatever they want and therefore like to have something that is more prestigious. I think it is a great move for them and if they can keep their standards high will pay dividends.
That said the bat nerds like us, see past the labels and look for sheer performance and bang for buck....and huge edges.
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I reckon these will sell at IJC,the who's laughing
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I guess i bat is always hand picked by someone! Clutching at straws with this one if you ask me. Im sure they will sell however
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I guess i bat is always hand picked by someone! Clutching at straws with this one if you ask me. Im sure they will sell however
Is a bat handpicked if someone sends you a photo of two and you pick one?
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‘Eyepicked’unless you count pointing at the screen/photo and saying “want that one” 👇
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Is a bat handpicked if someone sends you a photo of two and you pick one?
In my opinion no, however someones hands have picked them! Its clutching at straws
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Didn’t he say he has an ex customer there who hand picked them for him? It doesn’t have to be Paul who hand picks them. I know every has a bit of a dislike for IJC but come on get real guys.
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Didn’t he say he has an ex customer there who hand picked them for him? It doesn’t have to be Paul who hand picks them. I know every has a bit of a dislike for IJC but come on get real guys.
That is correct, i think if you claim al bats are handpicked and you have an ethos then its bent slightly you will attract critiscism, if they sell i doubt they care!
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I understand they have stretched the truth at times regarding hand picking bats and criticism is deserved but if I ask a mate to go to a batmaker and hand pick a bat for me is it hand picked or not?
Maybe he has an “friend “ at the store to hand pick them for him...or maybe he doesn’t...
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The vitriol aimed towards IJC is getting boring. When they nearly closed down recently loads of us were saying how sad that was. Whatever you think of the company and their practises they do release decent video reviews and I personally enjoy the 'top 5 bats of the month'.
Let's stop constantly critisicing someone trying to maintain a cricket centred retail outlet. I imagine it's bloody hard work and poorly paid.
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From the brand's perspective, not sure if this will do good or bad..I guess as long as the quality is maintained and bats perform well, nothing else matters.
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Didn’t he say he has an ex customer there who hand picked them for him? It doesn’t have to be Paul who hand picks them. I know every has a bit of a dislike for IJC but come on get real guys.
I like both Paul and IJC and have bought from them a few times and. Recommended to friends but I do think they made a bit of a rod for their own back with this hand picked malarkey.
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I think it’s the ex-customer and forum member who has opened the L&W franchise in India from my gathering.
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Who dat den?
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Can't say i'm a fan of the bold lettering down the edges, it doesn't appeal to me
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Can't say i'm a fan of the bold lettering down the edges, it doesn't appeal to me
True...makes it look like a cheap knock off. Probably some feedback for the makers.
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Can't say i'm a fan of the bold lettering down the edges, it doesn't appeal to me
I'm usually pretty open-minded, but it is truely truely horrible. Even in the knowledge that I could peel it off, I thinkI might still struggle to buy one with them on.
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I understand they have stretched the truth at times regarding hand picking bats and criticism is deserved but if I ask a mate to go to a batmaker and hand pick a bat for me is it hand picked or not?
Exactly what i said earlier, all bats are hand picked by someone. Whether it be you in person, a friend or someone from the brand themselves.
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I don't get it, why would you buy an Indian made Laver reserve from IJC for £600 when you can have the real thing direct from Laver for a little under £400 at current exchange rates? Can't imagine this is what Laver intended, you wonder how involved they are in the 'exclusive distributor' business.
Hi all - as some know (more now!), I now have some involvement with IJC and just wanted to clarify on the pricing point on their behalf.
An error was initially made on the pricing as a result of a slightly tricky process of trying to match prices between IJC and L&W direct, taking into account shipping to the UK, import duty, VAT etc. This has now been corrected.
Within very small margins, the total cost of ordering the same bat from L&W direct, and from IJC is now the same. The main difference from a pricing perspective is that if you order from L&W NZ direct, shipping of 100 NZD is added, and VAT and import duties may be payable. Ordering from IJC, UK delivery is free and all import tariffs, VAT etc are already dealt with. Delivery times on stock bats will also be shorter as they are coming from London, not NZ or India! You can of course also visit the store and pick up/compare the IJC bats.
Hope this clears things up.
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Exactly what i said earlier, all bats are hand picked by someone. Whether it be you in person, a friend or someone from the brand themselves.
it is almost irrelevant. whether hand picked or not, IJC will show you individual bat picks before you buy. the buyer can decide if they like it or not.
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Also, if there is a problem you can return it to IJC in London, not have to go to the expense and time of sending it back o NZ/India.
Overall for me I think there are much better value options available from smaller UK boutique makers.
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One advantage that IJC have is that bats delivered to them will have time to settle in weight before customers buy them, which I believe has been a bit of an issue with L&W bats in the past. Just saying.
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One advantage that IJC have is that bats delivered to them will have time to settle in weight before customers buy them, which I believe has been a bit of an issue with L&W bats in the past. Just saying.
I asked Laver about this when I bought one last year and they claim they've solved the weight gain problem, mine hasn't put any on so I'll believe them.
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One advantage that IJC have is that bats delivered to them will have time to settle in weight before customers buy them, which I believe has been a bit of an issue with L&W bats in the past. Just saying.
That may be the case for the Laver bats made in NZ, but as I understand these are not...
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That may be the case for the Laver bats made in NZ, but as I understand these are not...
Are the Reserves made in NZ? Anyway I also thought the bats were made in India. Even so, you wouldn't know it by looking at them. They looked finished to the same high standards as NZ made ones.
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To be fair to IJC they are quite open about which of the Laver bats on their website are Indian made, and which are not.
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The new IJC Youtube videos of Laver bats shows the "handcrafted in India" label on the back of the bats which are made in india. The advantage to local UK buyers will be to check the bats in person.
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For those genuinely interested in purchasing it also states quite clearly on the website against each bat where it has originated. They've got both the NZ and Indian models.
(https://i.imgur.com/zodkuEo.png)