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General Cricket => World Cricket => South Africa => Topic started by: Mister Le Chiffre on February 26, 2018, 01:47:44 PM
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Beanpole fast bowler has announced that the upcoming Test series against Australia will be his swan song. Seems a strange time to retire considering he's arguably the leader of their attack with Steyn permanently injured and Philander so injured quite often.
South Africa could end up in the West Indies shoes before too long. Morkel Steyn Philander Amla de Villiers du Plessis will be gone within 12-24 months and their reserves look poor.
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I reckon there might be a Kolpack announcement with his name on it soon enough!
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'International Crickey'! Blimey!
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Beanpole fast bowler has announced that the upcoming Test series against Australia will be his swan song. Seems a strange time to retire considering he's arguably the leader of their attack with Steyn permanently injured and Philander so injured quite often.
South Africa could end up in the West Indies shoes before too long. Morkel Steyn Philander Amla de Villiers du Plessis will be gone within 12-24 months and their reserves look poor.
It does look like SA are falling apart sadly. Hopefully not as the test world needs them to be strong but it does look thin on the red ball ground talent wise
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It does look like SA are falling apart sadly. Hopefully not as the test world needs them to be strong but it does look thin on the red ball ground talent wise
Yep a few SA players have been tipped in the last 12 months to give up test cricket
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Surrey would be my bet
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It does look like SA are falling apart sadly. Hopefully not as the test world needs them to be strong but it does look thin on the red ball ground talent wise
very similar to the issues being eperienced in South African rugby really - a transformation agenda, a weak currency and big opportunities elsewhere mean that a player has to be in the front half of an international career in which he is more or less an automatic pick for it to be worth staying.
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There is the potential I believe, so correct me if I'm wrong(someone usually does!) that unlimited ex SA players could flood the championship here as Kolpaks
Far as I know there is no limit to the amount of players that can come, nothing's happening until Brexit to restrict that(possibly) or if Labour gets in he next election, Brexit is effectively cancelled anyway.
Quite a few SA guys are over here already for 2018...but could there be more?
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There are no limits on number of Kolpaks. It would be against EU Law if there were. In which case, they wouldn't be Kolpaks anyway?
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There are no limits on number of Kolpaks. It would be against EU Law if there were. In which case, they wouldn't be Kolpaks anyway?
Errr, not quite right. There are no limits on the number of qualified Kolpaks, but it is no longer the case as it was a decade ago that anyone could come over. At present the criteria (being reviewed as I type) are a specific, albeit low, number of international appearances within the past two years. Bit different for EEA passport holders, obviously, though they are not Kolpaks.
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Errr, not quite right. There are no limits on the number of qualified Kolpaks, but it is no longer the case as it was a decade ago that anyone could come over. At present the criteria (being reviewed as I type) are a specific, albeit low, number of international appearances within the past two years. Bit different for EEA passport holders, obviously, though they are not Kolpaks.
Not sure that's true? Daryn Smit has never played an international game and Tino Best and Ravi Rampaul had gone more than 2 years without an international game.
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Errr, not quite right. There are no limits on the number of qualified Kolpaks, but it is no longer the case as it was a decade ago that anyone could come over. At present the criteria (being reviewed as I type) are a specific, albeit low, number of international appearances within the past two years. Bit different for EEA passport holders, obviously, though they are not Kolpaks.
I think I meant there were no restrictions on the numbers allowed. Rather than there were no restrictions on qualification as one.
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Not sure that's true? Daryn Smit has never played an international game and Tino Best and Ravi Rampaul had gone more than 2 years without an international game.
Smit is not a Kolpak.
Best and Rampaul were within two years when they started Kolpakking.
I can bore for Britain on the technicalities of immigration legislation...
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It's interesting that, a few years back, Trent Copeland wasn't allowed to come back to Northants as an overseas because he hadn't played enough recent international cricket.
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Smit is not a Kolpak.
Best and Rampaul were within two years when they started Kolpakking.
I can bore for Britain on the technicalities of immigration legislation...
That's good :). So Morkel have literally just finished a test match(!) cannot actually come here on a kolpak deal for an English county for 2018....because it's too soon having played international cricket
Is that right and are you an immigration lawyer ? Haha
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Isn't the thing that a lot of them are trying to qualify as Kolpaks now before Brexit (possibly) changes it all?
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Smit is not a Kolpak.
Best and Rampaul were within two years when they started Kolpakking.
I can bore for Britain on the technicalities of immigration legislation...
Any ideas how Smit qualified? Sky seemed to be referring to it as a kolpak signing in their article when he signed which is what made me assume he was. Johann Myburgh is another that came to mind but I assume he has a Dutch passport which presumably changes up the rules?
Fair enough on Rampaul but Tino Best signed for Hampshire on April 2016 having last represented the WI in January 2014?
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Any ideas how Smit qualified? Sky seemed to be referring to it as a kolpak signing in their article when he signed which is what made me assume he was. Johann Myburgh is another that came to mind but I assume he has a Dutch passport which presumably changes up the rules?
It could be an EEA passport, or a wife with the same; he would not qualify for a work permit, ergo he must have permission to seek employment without restriction.
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Isn't the thing that a lot of them are trying to qualify as Kolpaks now before Brexit (possibly) changes it all?
That was my understanding, although no one knows what will happen after Brexit the Kolpak ruling was an EU ruling. I suspect at some point it will stop. I also think 3 year contracts on good money (especially considering the pound to rand exchange rate) was a huge factor
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Looks like AB de Villiers will retire from Test cricket after this series but will stay around until the 2019 World Cup
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Looks like AB de Villiers will retire from Test cricket after this series but will stay around until the 2019 World Cup
Amla and faf could earn good money over here and on the 2020 train. Rabada should start to wonder if it’s worth him busting his body or join them
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Looks like AB de Villiers will retire from Test cricket after this series but will stay around until the 2019 World Cup
Real shame to see him retire from test match cricket, he was the difference in the recent test series
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Amla, Du Plessis, Philander, Elgar and of course ABD are all toward the end of careers and may well be tempted.
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Looks like AB de Villiers will retire from Test cricket after this series but will stay around until the 2019 World Cup
Has AB made an official announcement about his Test future?
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Has AB made an official announcement about his Test future?
AB only confirmed his availability for the India and Australia Test series.