Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: blindowl on June 05, 2018, 12:57:21 PM
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Hi,
After experimenting with various new and secondhand bats I keep returning to my short blade bat as I feel I get more value for my shots. I would like to get a similar one in a lighter weight to improve batspeed but struggling to identify my options.
Current bat is 2.12 but would like to try a 2.8 or 2.9.
Not interested in the tiny mongoose style so the options i've identified so far include:
Old newbury uzi
GM kaha
bb b20
Newbery blitz
Custom
Am I missing anything obvious?
I don't care about bat looks and would prefer it affordable but Is a lower grade bat such as a kaha 404 a terrible idea?
Thanks for any input
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Go for CA. You won't be disappointed. They top performing and shorter blades.
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Current bat is 2.12 but would like to try a 2.8 or 2.9.
You will gain bat speed at that weight but you will lose blade mass as well which may reduce the value for shots.
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Go for CA. You won't be disappointed. They top performing and shorter blades.
And shorter handles, and narrower faces... :-[
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GM neon is in between the KAHA and regular SH and it's working perfect for me
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And shorter handles, and narrower faces... :-[
No they not narrower faces or shorter handles. Please stop spreading false information about CA.
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Salix Raw
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No they not narrower faces or shorter handles. Please stop spreading false information about CA.
So the long handle CA I currently own that's the same length as a standard Short Handle and 102mm wide isn't a narrower face or a shorter handle?
Okay...
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So the long handle CA I currently own that's the same length as a standard Short Handle and 102mm wide isn't a narrower face or a shorter handle?
Okay...
I have measured 4 of the CA bats (not all mine) for length and width. The blade is slightly shorter, exactly the same as GN players choice velocity. Width is 106-108. Yours either is an exception or a fake.
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On the weight, moving from 2.12 to 2.10 is a better move than going all the way down to 2.8/9
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I can only speak from experience (and i am an awesome batsman), but B20's are cracking bats.
Go for one of them in the compromise weight of 2.10 and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the pick up and balance.
They're big b*stards too!
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How much shorter?
Most if not all Keeley and Kippax bats are about 1cm shorter.
Uzi Poseidon likewise
Aldred have some shorter blade models that look nice
Neon do a slightly shorter one, the Pink??? All are custom made so easy to spec what you want
Small mens or Academy sized bats will come in that weight, be shorter and terrific value. I think Uzi and Six Sixes have hooked people up on here, mostly with Kooks or GMs
Lots of options... what is the current bat you get on well with?
Currently using a blackcat - love the beef but would like a full width face.
Have a kippax colossus at 2.11, feels lighter by miles but still prepping for use. Not as beefy as the blackcat though.
Keeley brand bats are way out of my price range.
Would academy bats still be full length (or as near as makes no difference?). I will look into these, thanks for the tip.
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I can only speak from experience (and i am an awesome batsman), but B20's are cracking bats.
Go for one of them in the compromise weight of 2.10 and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the pick up and balance.
They're big b*stards too!
Really like the unusual look of the b20 and all feedback on them seems to be positive. Just need someone to use for a season and get bored of it then I can snap it up :)
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On the weight, moving from 2.12 to 2.10 is a better move than going all the way down to 2.8/9
I totally take your point. 2.10 seems a much more sensible step but I thought I would just try something really quite different and see how I get on. Particularly as I'm using 2.11/2.12 more out of circumstance than preference.
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Currently using a blackcat - love the beef but would like a full width face.
Have a kippax colossus at 2.11, feels lighter by miles but still prepping for use. Not as beefy as the blackcat though.
Keeley brand bats are way out of my price range.
Would academy bats still be full length (or as near as makes no difference?). I will look into these, thanks for the tip.
Which black cat do you have that isnt the correct width?
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Which black cat do you have that isnt the correct width?
jester.
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jester.
ah ok never knew those werent the correct width.
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GM small men's academy 555mm or 21.85 inches blade length 280mm or 11.25 inches handle length
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You will gain bat speed at that weight but you will lose blade mass as well which may reduce the value for shots.
Always found what you gain in bat speeds is more beneficial than what you lose in blade mass if you get your timing right.
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I’ve made quite a few shorter blade bats. All seem to have been well liked. Drop me a message if you want to discuss what I can make up for you
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Always found what you gain in bat speeds is more beneficial than what you lose in blade mass if you get your timing right.
I have to test it out. I haven't used a lighter blade in a long time. We have a match coming up on a raging-turner of a pitch and I will use my size-6-3 bat (@2-8). Other option is to use the XP-80 2000 which at 2-10 is a whippy bat.
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Always found what you gain in bat speeds is more beneficial than what you lose in blade mass if you get your timing right.
Clearly force = mass x acceleration, so there is an optimal weight for everyone, it is about finding it.
Heavier for drives and swing weight, lighter for pulls and cuts.
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Clearly force = mass x acceleration, so there is an optimal weight for everyone, it is about finding it.
Heavier for drives and swing weight, lighter for pulls and cuts.
For me there is also the consideration of perhaps getting into a better position in the first place with a lighter bat. When I face quicker bowlers or swinging balls I sometimes find myself unable to adjust quickly enough. Possibly psychosomatic but worth a try I think.
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^ You can also get in position very quickly with a heavier bat which is what I do. I use a 2-11.7 bat.
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@blindowl red ink cricket is an excellent option! All made by hand-held he made me a lovely 1 inch shorter blade beast weighing 2'8.5 that was very reasonably priced- he does a custom shape in a variety of grades and price points,plus he is a forum sponsor.Can show you photos of that bat he made me if you like...
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?board=132.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?board=132.0)
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I have a shorter blade red ink and it is excellent and great value for money.
Another option is a h4l warbird. I also have one of these. It is more expensive but also an excellent t bat.
You could also consider a mongoose cor3 if you can find one.
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So the long handle CA I currently own that's the same length as a standard Short Handle and 102mm wide isn't a narrower face or a shorter handle?
Okay...
i have a standard SH CA dragon series and it is almost the exact length and width as the BB B4 i just got. the blade is exactly the same size and the handle is about half a cm shorter. width wise it is exactly the same. i guess if your height is over 6'2" u could struggle with a CA. otherwise its all good (if you can live with the fragile nature of it)
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For me there is also the consideration of perhaps getting into a better position in the first place with a lighter bat. When I face quicker bowlers or swinging balls I sometimes find myself unable to adjust quickly enough. Possibly psychosomatic but worth a try I think.
I think it's not so much about getting in a better position if you late on the shot and failing to make contact with the quicker ball it' could be that the bat is to heavy
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I think it's more about smacking the sh*t out of it if it's in your half, with a bat that feels like a club.
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I think it's more about smacking the sh*t out of it if it's in your half, with a bat that feels like a club.
I quite agree! I try to play properly but usually just end up trying to smack anything I can. Little patience (or fitness) for too many singles.
Lots of good input so thanks everyone. Plenty to ponder.
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I think it's more about smacking the sh*t out of it if it's in your half, with a bat that feels like a club.
All I really look for in a bat.
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I know, I’ve seen you bat!