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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 01:55:18 PM

Title: Sandpaper
Post by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
Hi guys hopefully you can help, need to sand down a few bats but not quite sure we’re to get sandpaper that doesn’t damage your bat. Made the rookie mistake of buying some from b & q and that didn’t work. I’ve previous bought GM bat care bundle. But as I’m only after the sandpaper was hoping someone would know were to pick some up.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Gurujames on September 29, 2018, 02:42:50 PM
120 then 240 grit. Nothing wrong with sandpaper from b&q. Though I would buy a 10m roll from toolstation for about £4.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 02:45:29 PM
120 then 240 grit. Nothing wrong with sandpaper from b&q. Though I would buy a 10m roll from toolstation for about £4.

What’s the difference between the 2 pal
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: jonny77 on September 29, 2018, 03:26:07 PM
120 grit is coarser so start with that before moving up to 240.
 I use 400 too to get a smoother finish before adding bat wax. I 've used a detail sander with cheap sanding sheets from Toolstation with no problem.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: jonny77 on September 29, 2018, 03:27:11 PM
What’s the difference between the 2 pal

Better value from Screwfix or Toolstation
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Is the stuff off amazon and Ebay any good. There doesn’t seem to be any toolstation or screwfix near me and they delivery charges are more than the item. Thanks for your help guys
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 29, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
It should be but wouldnt touch  the really cheap stuff brought some from the £ shop it was made in China and it disintegrated as soon as i started sanding.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: jonny77 on September 29, 2018, 05:37:10 PM
Had stuff off eBay which has been fine. Any general sandpaper should be fine really, just go through the grits but don't start too low.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 06:24:22 PM
Had stuff off eBay which has been fine. Any general sandpaper should be fine really, just go through the grits but don't start too low.

Just to clarify so I don’t destroy my bat, but 120 and 240?
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Gurujames on September 29, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
Yes. I may go down to 80 grit  if it is in very bad condition . Some people go to some finer grades than 240 but to be honest there is no need to if you allow enough time with each grade of paper.
The number denotes the number of pieces per square inch. So 120 grit has 120 bits of aluminium oxide (or similar) per square inch.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: jonny77 on September 29, 2018, 07:28:20 PM
Yep, start with 120 and sand until cleaned up. Try to be even all over and then go over again with 240 in the same fashion. I'd tape over the edge of stickers if you're not removing those
 I also use 400 grit to finish it off.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 29, 2018, 08:01:12 PM
Yep, start with 120 and sand until cleaned up. Try to be even all over and then go over again with 240 in the same fashion. I'd tape over the edge of stickers if you're not removing those
 I also use 400 grit to finish it off.
Or if you want a super smooth gleaming bat purchase a specialist finishing paper.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: jonny77 on September 29, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
I have used 600 before to get a really smooth finish but 400 works fine.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: alexevo94 on September 29, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
Thanks for all the help just purchased some
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: prim0pyr0 on September 29, 2018, 11:24:14 PM
Dont sand accross the grain, youll leave deep marks/cuts that will be hard to sand out.
There are different types of paper, they have different abrasive material eg aluminium oxide, garnet, carbide. The white aluminium oxide stuff has sterate in it to lubricate and stop it getting clogged good for paint, also good for wood. The carbide stuff is good as it has a very uniform particle/abrasive size(vs others which are a bit of a mix of sizes) this makes the transition from course to smooth papers better as you dont have to sand as much to get the deeper marks from the larger particles out. Ive found some carbide papers leave black marks on wood tho. I wouldnt use garnet, usually its very course.
What you use to hold the paper is important, sanding block, sander, tennis ball for back of bat. Random orbital is good for front face.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: prim0pyr0 on September 29, 2018, 11:31:40 PM
If youre taking off stickers or scuff sheet the glue residue doesnt sand off well, youll need some solvent to get it off first (white spirit, linseed oil, citrus dissolve sticky stuff)
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Umi on September 30, 2018, 01:16:54 AM
What number sand paper is recommended for the toe? minor crack that’s needs sorting out
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: prim0pyr0 on September 30, 2018, 02:45:34 AM
Depends, i use bench belt sander which is 120 i think. Can go 80 if you want to shape it a bit. Pros on grass seem to leave it rough, possibly makes it less likely to split if youre playing on dry good wickets. If youre going for shop finish then 80->120->240. If your putting on toe gaurd then 120 good to help adhesion
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 30, 2018, 09:03:13 AM
What number sand paper is recommended for the toe? minor crack that’s needs sorting out
Usually start sanding toe cracks with rough down to smooth sandpaper unless applying toe guard  then leave toe a little rough
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Northern monkey on September 30, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
Make sure you remove all the particles between grades,(I have a stiff brush)
If your going to polish a bat, I would say go 240,300,400 with grits,,, your not gonna polish out sanding marks and achieve a decent finish,,, the bat has to be mark free first,, I find bright sunshine the best light to see the marks
Use a random orbital carefully, if you can fit a vacuum to it even better,,, buy a mixed pack of discs off amazon
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Northern monkey on September 30, 2018, 09:19:35 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ4zRd50/7_BB9_BC37-0_F29-4_E97-9_FDA-4_C21_D2761_EAA.png)
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: SAFC2403 on October 01, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ4zRd50/7_BB9_BC37-0_F29-4_E97-9_FDA-4_C21_D2761_EAA.png)

That looks quality and that grain marking looks brilliant!!
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Grubby on October 01, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ4zRd50/7_BB9_BC37-0_F29-4_E97-9_FDA-4_C21_D2761_EAA.png)
Looks Good. What's your process to get the finish to this stage?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Northern monkey on October 01, 2018, 04:42:21 PM
Looks good?? Looks amazing yeah?

Process,,, as I wrote above
Go through the sandpaper grades, 80,120,150,220,300,400,600
Might miss a couple depending on how it looks
Remove all the dust before starting a new grade,(stiff brush)
Then buff it
Job done,,,, hopefully I made that sound a lot easier than it actually is
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Seniorplayer on October 01, 2018, 05:46:07 PM
Done correctly each higher grade of sand paper will remove the marks of the previous grade.