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Title: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: alexhilly1492 on October 03, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Strauss steps down as director of cricket

Statement release via ecb twitter
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Kieron_BT on October 03, 2018, 11:05:37 AM
https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/869444 (https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/869444)
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: liscon12 on October 03, 2018, 11:14:12 AM
I think his wife's illness has taken a lot out of him (as it would with any family) and at the same time he has maybe come to realise what's important to him in terms of his life and how he wants to spend the rest of it.

I think he's done a lot to shake up the ODI system to enable it to become one of the best teams in the world, thanks in part by keeping Morgan on.

I wish him all the best going forward
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: iand123 on October 03, 2018, 11:16:55 AM
I hope for him and his families sake his wife's condition hasnt deteriorated. All the best to him and his family, its a brave decision to make but family is much more important
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SD on October 03, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
Glad to see the back of him.  The ECB's David Brent, capable of talking whilst saying nothing.  His presence in Australia last winter was utterly counterproductive.  It would be good to see the ECB able to attract a former player of genuine substance to the roll but with the pay and relative stress-free environment of a post-playing career in the media, it is clear to see why a non-entity like Strauss ended up in the roll   
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on October 03, 2018, 11:38:39 AM
Almost impossible to hold down a job of that magnitude whilst being needed as a husband and father when your wife is unwell. Think his legacy is the changes to our white ball in as has already been said making us one of the strongest white ball sides in the world and not just at home.
However test cricket has gone backwards so that has to be the focus of his replacement. Would like to se someone like Nasser take over as a heart on the sleeve kinda of bloke who loves cricket and I don’t tho I would be a corporate yes man
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ppccopener on October 03, 2018, 11:42:08 AM
Glad to see the back of him.  The ECB's David Brent, capable of talking whilst saying nothing.  His presence in Australia last winter was utterly counterproductive.  It would be good to see the ECB able to attract a former player of genuine substance to the roll but with the pay and relative stress-free environment of a post-playing career in the media, it is clear to see why a non-entity like Strauss ended up in the roll   

that's a harsh and unfair view of Strauss.Our test cricket has gone backwards true, but white ball cricket has improved massively, how much directly down to him is hard to say
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: LateBloomer on October 03, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
Glad to see the back of him.  The ECB's David Brent, capable of talking whilst saying nothing.  His presence in Australia last winter was utterly counterproductive.  It would be good to see the ECB able to attract a former player of genuine substance to the roll but with the pay and relative stress-free environment of a post-playing career in the media, it is clear to see why a non-entity like Strauss ended up in the roll

Roll. Roll. Who's a non-entity again?

Best wishes to the whole Strauss family in their battle. Any early suggestions for candidates?

Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Manormanic on October 03, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
On a personal level, I hope that things go well for him at what is clearly a challenging time.  On a cricketing level, I can only say thank your deities - Strauss has been nothing short of a disgrace in his management of the English game.  Yes, there have been improvements to the one day side, but our Test cricket has gone sharply down hill, and his almost complete devaluation of the county game has led to major gaps in the talent coming through. 
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Manormanic on October 03, 2018, 11:47:45 AM
Roll. Roll. Who's a non-entity again?

Best wishes to the whole Strauss family in their battle. Any early suggestions for candidates?

Unless Michael Atherton can be convinced to give up journalism, which I doubt, then I would go outside cricket - get a proven sports administrator who can look dispassionately at things. 
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SLA on October 03, 2018, 01:20:05 PM
Unless Michael Atherton can be convinced to give up journalism, which I doubt, then I would go outside cricket - get a proven sports administrator who can look dispassionately at things.

Agree entirely. We have this obsession in cricket of either appointing a) ex-international cricketers who have no coaching experience or qualifications, and certainly no business acumen,  or b) dodgy rich Del-Boy like chancer figures like Colin Graves who have enormous egos and massively overestimate their own competence, and c) slippery corporate types like Tom Harrison who serve multiple masters and only appear to be interested in whatever policy they think will boost their personal remuneration packages.

We never seem to even consider appointing someone with actual proven experience or ability in successfully administrating a major sports league or national team. Even if you look at the county chairmen, most fall into one of the above three categories.


As for this particular position, my recommendation is: don't replace him. We don't need a "Director of English Cricket", its a nonsense position. We have a head selector and a head coach to take charge of our national teams. Both of whom should be directly answerable to the board.



Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Rob580 on October 03, 2018, 01:53:01 PM
It doesn't matter who they appoint, everyone will still say they're terrible and shouldn't have got the job.

It's just one of those poison jobs where you could be the best person ever at the job, but the players aren't up to it and you get killed. Strauss may well have set up player pathways in the background and in 10 years time we'll be unstoppable. His job isn't purely judged on the results of the men's senior team. He's also in charge of the Disability teams, U19's, Women's game and countless other tasks.

I for one wish him well, hope his wife's condition is improving and hope one day he will return in some capacity to the ECB.

Whoever is appointed, we'll be having this conversation again when they step down....
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 03, 2018, 01:55:50 PM
Would never wish an illness on a family member so nothing but hope and sympathy.

However, good riddens from a cricket view. Test cricket is in a dismal state as is red ball in general. Participation dropping still with zero sign of it rising any time soon... still, he said yes to the ECB lots and didn’t rock the boat.. pretty much what the next guy/gal will be like

It’s not really his fault but he’s not done anything to suggest he saw anything wrong.. a few pathways etc isn’t what’s needed
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SRH on October 03, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
It will never happen, but for me Rob Key speaks the most sense out of the current crop of cricketing pundits. 
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Jimmy Tiwana on October 03, 2018, 02:45:42 PM
Would never wish an illness on a family member so nothing but hope and sympathy.

However, good riddens from a cricket view. Test cricket is in a dismal state as is red ball in general. Participation dropping still with zero sign of it rising any time soon... still, he said yes to the ECB lots and didn’t rock the boat.. pretty much what the next guy/gal will be like

It’s not really his fault but he’s not done anything to suggest he saw anything wrong.. a few pathways etc isn’t what’s needed

Indeed, hope & sympathy for the family involved. But certainly the demise of Test cricket  & the red ball seems inevitable globally...I have not played with a single red ball in the last 3 years of active club cricket :(
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Seniorplayer on October 03, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
 Just put a fiver on Alister Cook as next director of cricket
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SD on October 03, 2018, 03:41:49 PM
Nasser would be my pick to take the job on but I can see it Being a big ask to get him to take the job on.  Along with Duncan Fletcher he was fundamental in turning around the shambles of the 90s and which later captains and coaches rode on the coat tails of.  Sadly that complacency has got us where we are now
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SLA on October 03, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
Just put a fiver on Alister Cook as next director of cricket

Far too soon, surely.

Even following the protocols of the ECB/sky "jobs for the boys" fast-track schemes, they normally put someone on comms for a few years to practice their empty platitudes and management speak before putting them in positions of authority that they simply don't have any kind of aptitude or experience for whatsoever.

Alistair Cook seems like a nice enough guy and was obviously a class bat, but he was a terrible captain with below average levels of tactical and strategic insight and a very poor man motivator. Absolutely everything about him screams "I would make a terrible senior administrator". However, he is from "the right kind of family".

So in summary, yes, I think your 5er was well spent.


Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: six and out on October 03, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
For my money get Alec Stewart out of Surrey and into the big job.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 03, 2018, 05:18:25 PM
For my money get Alec Stewart out of Surrey and into the big job.

Mr Stewart, with colly seems appropriate
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Duck Duck Mongoose on October 03, 2018, 05:34:01 PM
Colly is a great shout. Not sure he's the 'right sort of chap' for the ECB though
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: mdg20 on October 04, 2018, 06:01:16 AM
For my money get Alec Stewart out of Surrey and into the big job.

There’s no way the ECB would want a strongly opinionated, strong minded, pro county cricket Surrey man at the helm.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: petehosk on October 04, 2018, 08:36:10 AM
Best wishes to his family and genuinely hope that they win their fight against this terrible illness!  :(

Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Buzz on October 04, 2018, 11:02:21 AM
Just put a fiver on Alister Cook as next director of cricket
Ali is going to work on his farm and play a bit for Essex. Very unlikely to get the gig.

My money is on Gus Fraser or Tom Moody.

I would rather we have the Aussie personally.

Obviously Stewart is the outstanding current candidate, but I want him to stay at Surrey!

Collingwood would be good too in my view, but probably wants to go into coaching.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: SAFC2403 on October 18, 2018, 11:55:16 AM
Colly is a great shout. Not sure he's the 'right sort of chap' for the ECB though

He's from Durham for a start - far too northern.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ppccopener on October 18, 2018, 07:26:32 PM
Deep breath.....

Would the ECB appoint a female?
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: InternalTraining on October 18, 2018, 07:39:24 PM
ECB should appoint Kevin Pietersen. :D
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Novak on October 18, 2018, 08:08:59 PM
If ECB appointed Kevin P

Well we know they won't ever but if they did

I think the game would explode in UK

He would bring in a lot excitement to the game as well as the interviews would be insane
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Buzz on October 18, 2018, 08:54:07 PM
Deep breath.....

Would the ECB appoint a female?
They could go for Charlotte Edwards, but that won't happen.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 18, 2018, 08:56:02 PM
They could go for Charlotte Edwards, but that won't happen.

The establishment loves rainford-Brent
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ppccopener on October 18, 2018, 09:07:55 PM
I was thinking Claire Connor /Charlotte Edwards

Women's cricket appears, and I say appears because I have no proof, to be having the funding focus on it. It has some catching up to do so maybe that is right.we have to have girls playing more, and more girl teams obviously.

I wonder if the ECB will go the whole hog and appoint a woman.the guardian suggest Claire Connor.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: billyb on October 18, 2018, 11:35:37 PM
The establishment loves rainford-Brent

The establishment? Do we need to get our tin foil hats out?  :D
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 19, 2018, 10:28:37 AM
The establishment? Do we need to get our tin foil hats out?  :D

Heaven forbid we question the ECB eh
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: Duck Duck Mongoose on October 21, 2018, 10:53:27 PM
The establishment? Do we need to get our tin foil hats out?  :D

Seriously?
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss steps down
Post by: liscon12 on December 29, 2018, 02:41:56 PM
Sad news that Mrs Strauss has sadly passed away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46708911 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46708911)