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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: ozcfa on December 15, 2018, 05:31:49 AM

Title: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 15, 2018, 05:31:49 AM
i am getting some weight reduced from my new AS bat, hopefully 4oz off from 2.11 to 2.7

The bat is big with 44mm max edges and 35mm max toe. So I think there is some excess fat

I have approached Cooper Cricket and Brisbane Bat Refurbishment. Anyone here dealt with them
before.

Need some guidance from people who have experience of getting weight reduced. I
Its a beautiful bat and don’t want it to be ruined.

Link to the thread with bat photos
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75)


Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: LEACHY48 on December 15, 2018, 05:35:09 AM
4 oz is a crazy amount of weight to lose. Dont
waste your money and just send it back
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 15, 2018, 06:17:22 AM
4 oz is a crazy amount of weight to lose. Dont
waste your money and just send it back

Yep, 4oz is too much... I assume your comment  is based on your experience, is it?
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Cholrudee on December 15, 2018, 07:09:16 AM
Best option is to sell it as which ever path you do take it will cost you money.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 15, 2018, 07:39:25 AM
Definitely, will sell it or keep it as it is. But I want to make it useable.

Interested in hearing people’s experiences who have gone through this process
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: LEACHY48 on December 15, 2018, 07:53:08 AM
I've had 2 ounces taken out of a bat and it was never the same
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 15, 2018, 08:16:00 AM
Unless you’re intending on turning it into a Harrow 4oz is a substantial amount of willow. If you’re still able to just return it then that’s your best bet imo
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Turn Of Pace on December 15, 2018, 08:59:39 AM
It’s virtually impossible for even the most skilled bat maker to take 4oz out of a bat and still maintain the integrity of the bat. Send it back or sell it are your only options if you’re not going to use it I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: t2ylo on December 15, 2018, 09:54:51 AM
Looking at the photos you could lose a lot of weight from that toe - it looks so thick and almost unfinished.
That would change the pick up an awful lot so you may not need so much weight off as you think
That said I’ve had weight off an old GM Flare and it was never the same
A  bat maker’s judgement is the optimum bat trying to get out of each cleft - if this cleft was destined to have made a massive bat at 2.7 it would already be one and it wouldn’t have been quite so reasonably priced
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 15, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
Do agree 4oz is a lot to remove  but having reduced bats by 4oz including down from 2lb 11 to 2lb 7 ounce  for myself and others without it being detrimental to the  bat  by removing the wood first off the toe and then  evenly off the back until  wearing gloves the bats pickup feels right in the hands if your bat has a full back or minimal concaving a batmaker should easily achieve your required bat weight.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 15, 2018, 10:33:36 AM
Do agree 4oz is a lot to remove  but having reduced bats by 4oz including down from 2lb 11 to 2lb 7 ounce  for myself and others without it being detrimental to the  bat  by removing the wood first of the toe and then  evenly off the back until  wearing gloves the bats pickup feels right in the hands if your bat has a full back or minimal concaving a batmaker should easily archive  your required bat weight.

Which tool did you find best to use @Seniorplayer? I presume it was a pretty big bat in the first place!
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 15, 2018, 11:37:17 AM
Which tool did you find best to use @Seniorplayer? I presume it was a pretty big bat in the first place!

Spokeshave Blockplane orbital sander double handle rasp and mouse sander
Forgot to write didn't remove wood from the spine.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Northern monkey on December 15, 2018, 06:14:59 PM
4oz is a chunk of weight
But that toe looks ripe for a bit of weight removal
Then take the edges down, and re shape the profile
It’s gonna be a different bat tho
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Sitonit on December 15, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
i am getting some weight reduced from my new AS bat, hopefully 4oz off from 2.11 to 2.7

The bat is big with 44mm max edges and 35mm max toe. So I think there is some excess fat

I have approached Cooper Cricket and Brisbane Bat Refurbishment. Anyone here dealt with them
before.

Need some guidance from people who have experience of getting weight reduced. I
Its a beautiful bat and don’t want it to be ruined.

Link to the thread with bat photos
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75[/url])


Talk to that J P Gavan guy, may be?

With the bulk in the shape of these monsters, I think it’s possible to easily take off 3 Oz

You start off from the bottom and chisel the toe down 18 mm flat all across thus removing the spine up to three inches from the bottom up. That’s about an Oz

Then you trim down the edges to 35 mm and reduce the bulk by scalloping and creating a reasonable concaving.

That’s about another 2 Oz

And you end up with a 2.8

Otherwise, hit the gym and build some muscles to be able to enjoy playing with this beast.

And finally, the best option in my opinion.
You can also use this as a practice bat in the nets. Many, many international pros use a much heavier bat in the nets to strengthen their batting muscles which helps them increase the bat speed when they play with their actual and lighter match bats.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: KW9221 on December 15, 2018, 08:22:24 PM
Last year I sent my Kippax for 5 ounces weight reduction and it was fine. They made it into duckbill shape and it picks up so much better. My advice is don’t go for dead weight and try to shape it for better and lighter pick up.

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=41358.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=41358.0)
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Australian fast bowler on December 15, 2018, 11:04:01 PM
i am getting some weight reduced from my new AS bat, hopefully 4oz off from 2.11 to 2.7

The bat is big with 44mm max edges and 35mm max toe. So I think there is some excess fat

I have approached Cooper Cricket and Brisbane Bat Refurbishment. Anyone here dealt with them
before.

Need some guidance from people who have experience of getting weight reduced. I
Its a beautiful bat and don’t want it to be ruined.

Link to the thread with bat photos
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44912.75[/url])


Hi Mate, i am actually brisbane bat refurbishment, I have had quite a few weight reduction requests in the last few days. 4oz is a lot of weight but something that could be achievable. Removing stickers and the edge size reduction could get us there but happy to have a look
CHeers

JK
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2018, 09:21:24 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/6509ybqR/4-BC08-E41-67-FB-42-A1-933-C-5-D009016-B8-F0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnx97Dvk)
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 16, 2018, 10:33:42 AM
Can’t argue with you the Ayrtek Cricket rep (apologies I don’t know your name) ...
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 16, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
Saw this on Facebook

(https://i.postimg.cc/htsjTrpX/43900-DDA-F5-B1-4-BB6-A6-F3-8-B24-A7-E08329.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ts1pHh0b)
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
Can’t argue with you the Ayrtek Cricket rep (apologies I don’t know your name) ...

1-2oz acheiveable by slimming it down a bit, but 4oz is going to drastically change the overall profile of the bat as it’s a serious amount of wood.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2018, 10:53:51 AM
Saw this on Facebook

(https://i.postimg.cc/htsjTrpX/43900-DDA-F5-B1-4-BB6-A6-F3-8-B24-A7-E08329.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ts1pHh0b)

Any before and after images? Requests from a customer are one thing actually achieving it is another as the wood will have a certain density to it meaning it’s weight will be dictated by being a bat with certain size to it.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Hoover on December 16, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
Bad idea, sell it and buy an actual 2.7
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: FattusCattus on December 16, 2018, 11:14:12 AM
Bad idea, sell it and buy an actual 2.7

@ozcfa that is good advice, from someone who really knows their batmaking
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: FattusCattus on December 16, 2018, 11:15:32 AM
Can’t argue with you the Ayrtek Cricket rep (apologies I don’t know your name) ...

FYI the Ayrtek reps name is Sheila. Really lovely girl who knows her stuff.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
Only you’re allowed to call me that @FattusCattus and I thought it was our little weekend secret!
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: FattusCattus on December 16, 2018, 11:30:33 AM
Sorry Sheila
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 16, 2018, 11:35:41 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmF2v59CtI
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 17, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
Showed the bat to Bris bat refurb today. Happy that he was very impressed with the bat, specially the size.

Jono showed me that a large part of this bat has edges bigger that the legal limit of 40mm. Spine is 70mm.

He advised against weight reduction mainly because it is a nice bat as it is. He suggested that I sell it.

I am not going to sell it, will keep it.

I use light bats but always wanted a heavy beast like XP80 or GN giant ( already have couple of xp70s in 2.7lb) just as a novelty. So this can be that large bat which I always wanted but know that i might will never use it
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: ozcfa on December 17, 2018, 01:21:21 PM
By the way, Jono (Brisbane Bat Refurbishment) is such a decent bloke. I thought he was very knowledgeable about bats. Also very generous with his time and sharing ideas.

But he is a bad salesman. He was more interested in doing the right thing and helping me rather than in selling his service.
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Sitonit on December 17, 2018, 02:12:17 PM
Showed the bat to Bris bat refurb today. Happy that he was very impressed with the bat, specially the size.

Jono showed me that a large part of this bat has edges bigger that the legal limit of 40mm. Spine is 70mm.

He advised against weight reduction mainly because it is a nice bat as it is. He suggested that I sell it.

I am not going to sell it, will keep it.

I use light bats but always wanted a heavy beast like XP80 or GN giant ( already have couple of xp70s in 2.7lb) just as a novelty. So this can be that large bat which I always wanted but know that i might will never use it

Why not use it in nets?
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: Sitonit on December 18, 2018, 12:06:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG3lWKVvyjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG3lWKVvyjc)
Title: Re: Weight reduction
Post by: adb club cricketer on December 18, 2018, 01:33:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG3lWKVvyjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG3lWKVvyjc)

Nice video, thanks for the link.