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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: strang on March 16, 2019, 06:16:04 PM

Title: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 16, 2019, 06:16:04 PM
Looking at their ranges from years gone by, just wondering if someone can tell me whether the numbers are in any way a reference to price/quality? ie. is the v1200 better than both the v500 and v600?
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: SD on March 16, 2019, 06:31:47 PM
It was the bat shape that was the difference.  The top of range bat was the same price it across the range (£195 around 1999-2000)
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: cricketbadger on March 16, 2019, 07:00:58 PM
Means nothing at all in terms of grading. It's basically the variation in model names such as GM with Icon, Noir, Haze etc etc
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 17, 2019, 12:10:06 PM
I notice the v1200 has a kind of scooped toe, the rest look the same traditional shape to me.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: SD on March 17, 2019, 01:45:25 PM
I think that the v800 has scoops taken out of the back at various times and but otherwise my recollection of bats from 20 years ago is that there was a lot less variation in profiles than there is now
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: LukeFramBurton on March 17, 2019, 02:05:03 PM
I think that the v800 has scoops taken out of the back at various times and but otherwise my recollection of bats from 20 years ago is that there was a lot less variation in profiles than there is now

If I remember correctly, when the V800 came out (nearly 20 years ago?) it had some pretty impressive scoops out the back - was it a couple of scoops and a couple of circular indentations(?!). I had a V500 at the time that teammates dubbed ‘hernia bat’ due to the weight. Had one hell of a middle though.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: LukeFramBurton on March 17, 2019, 02:07:07 PM
Google image search of the V800 does throw up some good images from the vintage bats thread.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 18, 2019, 11:58:07 AM
I've got a V800 (Classic maybe) at home which is in decent nick, but could do with a refurb and needs regripping.  Part of the binding has come away a little, but merely needs re-stuck, hasn't degraded or anything.  If any of you want to take it from me you can have it - you'll have to pay the postage though, or collect from the North-East.  SH, weighs about 2lb 9oz.  Can stick a couple of photos up if required.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: jonny77 on March 18, 2019, 12:56:15 PM
I've got a V800 (Classic maybe) at home which is in decent nick, but could do with a refurb and needs regripping.  Part of the binding has come away a little, but merely needs re-stuck, hasn't degraded or anything.  If any of you want to take it from me you can have it - you'll have to pay the postage though, or collect from the North-East.  SH, weighs about 2lb 9oz.  Can stick a couple of photos up if required.

Hiya mate, I'd take it as a refurb project if it's available.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 18, 2019, 01:03:05 PM
Im interested
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 18, 2019, 01:03:39 PM
Hiya mate, I'd take it as a refurb project if it's available.
PM'd you.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 18, 2019, 01:04:14 PM
Im interested
Sorry dude, will let you know if it's still available later on.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: LukeFramBurton on March 18, 2019, 04:27:35 PM
Kicking myself for not checking this thread on my lunch break now!!
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 18, 2019, 05:40:09 PM
 Looked at the bats in Sports :direct today and the bats have a card  stating Each  V number is refererence to  the middle position ie low middle  low to mid middle etc.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 18, 2019, 08:43:11 PM
Sorry dude, will let you know if it's still available later on.
No worries
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 18, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
Looked at the bats in Sports :direct today and the bats have a card  stating Each  V number is refererence to  the middle position ie low middle  low to mid middle etc.
Which numbers were which middle?
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 19, 2019, 08:44:25 AM
I am go to our local mall  pm today and will make a note of what  all the V numbers IE v200 for example  refer to.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: tim2000s on March 20, 2019, 09:01:28 AM
V12 - the one with the hump.
V1200 - a slightly later version of the one with the hump, where the hump was elongated.
V100, V200, V500 and V600 - all variations on the more traditional shape. V500 had the best shape of these in my view.
V800 - initially made with two small scoops out of the back looking like cats eyes. GN had a hissy fit because they'd patented Scoops and Slaz had to change it to some nicks out of the side.
V99.9 -  a special Bradman edition in a traditional shape.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 20, 2019, 09:32:46 AM
I am go to our local mall  pm today and will make a note of what  all the V numbers IE v200 for example  refer to.
That's very kind, thanks.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 20, 2019, 09:33:30 AM
V12 - the one with the hump.
V1200 - a slightly later version of the one with the hump, where the hump was elongated.
V100, V200, V500 and V600 - all variations on the more traditional shape. V500 had the best shape of these in my view.
V800 - initially made with two small scoops out of the back looking like cats eyes. GN had a hissy fit because they'd patented Scoops and Slaz had to change it to some nicks out of the side.
V99.9 -  a special Bradman edition in a traditional shape.
thanks very handy breakdown.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: strang on March 20, 2019, 09:34:36 AM
A lot of slazenger bats of recent vintage don't seem to say whether they are English or Kashmir willow - are all of them just English? I know that the Panthers are Kashmir.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: SD on March 20, 2019, 09:47:38 AM
It's a real shame to see the degradation of the Slazenger brand under Sports Direct.  When you think of some of the players who used their kit in the past, it is sad to see how quickly they fell
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 20, 2019, 10:04:27 AM
It's a real shame to see the degradation of the Slazenger brand under Sports Direct.  When you think of some of the players who used their kit in the past, it is sad to see how quickly they fell

It is actually a complete and utter disgrace, and incredibly short sighted really.  Not long since they had the likes of Richards, Botham, Bell, Bradman, Clarke, Collingwood et al.  Steve Smith started with Slaz right?  Still gets his bats made at the same place too (Sondhi right?).  When you think of the most visible representation of British gentlemanly class and luxury goods these days you probably think of Bond, and even James Bond wore a Slazenger sweater when golfing - can you imagine that happening now?  That level of endorsement and history you would think would be considered a valuable asset and protected vociferously, but instead they've completely diluted and destroyed it in only a few years - incredible.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: LukeFramBurton on March 20, 2019, 12:34:18 PM
Unfortunately that is the SD model - find a brand that is down on its luck, buy it cheap, stick the logo on crap, tell everyone it should be expensive but they can have it cheap.

It’s exactly the same for Karrimor, Lonsdale, Everlast, No Fear and they had Umbro rights for a while.

Does anyone know where the Slazenger stuff is made at the moment?
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 20, 2019, 12:59:04 PM
Who knows with regards to clothing etc, but their proper cricket stuff is still made at FC Sondhi I believe, essentially making it the same as NB and a few others.  Happy to be corrected.

Don't they also have Airwalk now as well, they were massive in the late 90s when skateboarding and surfing took off.

With all those brands, there is still some good wares to be had, but unfortunately you have to wade through the crap first.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: avkrish on March 20, 2019, 01:13:27 PM
Unfortunately that is the SD model - find a brand that is down on its luck, buy it cheap, stick the logo on crap, tell everyone it should be expensive but they can have it cheap.

It’s exactly the same for Karrimor, Lonsdale, Everlast, No Fear and they had Umbro rights for a while.

Does anyone know where the Slazenger stuff is made at the moment?

The current year V12 Limited Edition bat has a sticker that says it is made in England.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: stevat on March 20, 2019, 01:33:30 PM
The current year V12 Limited Edition bat has a sticker that says it is made in England.

Fearnley were making some models for them I think?
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 20, 2019, 05:21:30 PM
Who knows with regards to clothing etc, but their proper cricket stuff is still made at FC Sondhi I believe, essentially making it the same as NB and a few others.  Happy to be corrected.

Don't they also have Airwalk now as well, they were massive in the late 90s when skateboarding and surfing took off.

With all those brands, there is still some good wares to be had, but unfortunately you have to wade through the crap first.

Pacific Brands own the rights in Aus and New Zealand with full and exclusive rights to sell in these countries in 2011 they sub licensed to Spartan Sports.
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: Stumpystumper on March 20, 2019, 05:55:15 PM
Used to love the Slazenger bats of the late 80's / early 90's. My mates brother had a monster of a V12 and it was an absolute weapon!! I remember the V800 with the two scoops out as well. Handled very well. Also the wicket keeping gear was top notch. Same to see the decline over the years!
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: Mattsky on March 20, 2019, 08:24:04 PM
Agreed. Hopefully one day they'll sell the brand to enthusiasts who'll revive it.
Anyway, here's a bit more info on Slazenger grading that was discussed a while ago :

Ultimate
Pro

Supreme (grade 2)
Select
Super
Panther
Title: Re: Slazenger Bats - what do the numbers really mean? v500, v600, v800, v1200?
Post by: SD on March 20, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
They also did a protege which was ahead of the panther and also only came in junior sizes