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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: AJ2014 on March 25, 2022, 09:27:28 AM
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Looking forward to first outdoor nets first outdoor nets for this this season.
After having being hit by a fierce inswinging yorker which broke my toe finger more than a month ago at first indoor net with Norden CC. It is still painful...
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Does it hurt more or less when you're typing up dodgy ebay listings?
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Does it hurt more or less when you're typing up dodgy ebay listings?
What dodgy listing are you talking about? Thanks
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You said you were quitting the forum over it.. did you just expect to wait 3 weeks and for everybody to forget?
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You said you were quitting the forum over it.. did you just expect to wait 3 weeks and for everybody to forget?
That wasn't for listing dodgy listings.
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Does it hurt more or less when you're typing up dodgy ebay listings?
Quick word of warning for any who might see this one up for sale - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bellingham-and-Smith-Fireball-Pro-Bat-Grade-1-2lb-11oz-/284654285728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bellingham-and-Smith-Fireball-Pro-Bat-Grade-1-2lb-11oz-/284654285728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0)
I recently sold this guy this bat for £83, it is NOT a G1. Wasn't bought as such and I listed it as a G2 which is what it was sold to me as. Perfectly good bat but the listing is nonsense.
Sure you didn't get concussion as well?
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What's a 'toe finger'?
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That wasn't for listing dodgy listings.
An admission of guilt
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What's a 'toe finger'?
A toe finger is the instrument used for typing that fabricates the grade of a cricket bat.
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A toe finger is the instrument used for typing that fabricates the grade of a cricket bat.
Surely you know what yorker is 👍
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Sure you didn't get concussion as well?
That's it's seller's opinion, he auctioned that bat as grade 2, might be due to the amount of speck, otherwise that bat had 9 arrow straight grains and a low full profile and a solid fitted handle.
I went on their website and went through Bellingham and Smith Facebook pages, nothing confirmed it's grading, they only said, top quality willow etc.
I sold it as grade 1 because that's what I thought about it y the seller agreed to it.
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That's it's seller's opinion, he auctioned that bat as grade 2, might be due to the amount of speck, otherwise that bat had 9 arrow straight grains and a low full profile and a solid fitted handle.
I went on their website and went through Bellingham and Smith Facebook pages, nothing confirmed it's grading, they only said, top quality willow etc.
I sold it as grade 1 because that's what I thought about it y the seller agreed to it.
The seller (me) did not agree to anything?
I sold it as a grade 2 because that is what B&S graded and sold it as.
I can only speculate about why you would have (falsely) claimed it was a grade 1 bat but I imagine you did so in order to massively inflate the price you were selling it for.
To me this is hugely dishonest and I struggle to believe that you don't also realise this.
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The seller (me) did not agree to anything?
I sold it as a grade 2 because that is what B&S graded and sold it as.
I can only speculate about why you would have (falsely) claimed it was a grade 1 bat but I imagine you did so in order to massively inflate the price you were selling it for.
To me this is hugely dishonest and I struggle to believe that you don't also realise this.
@Jimbo
What I said is that seller auctioned that bat as grade 2, that might have been due to amount of speck on the bat.
A potential buyer contacted me and tapped mallet and cricket ball on it.
He was satisfied that the bat is grade 1. He bought that bat.
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@Jimbo
What I said is that seller auctioned that bat as grade 2, that might have been due to amount of speck on the bat.
A potential buyer contacted me and tapped mallet and cricket ball on it.
He was satisfied that the bat is grade 1. He bought that bat.
Whatever it was graded by the manufacturer is what you should be selling it as. Would this buyer have happily paid the same price had they not believed it to be a higher grade of willow?
You could, honestly, say you believe it has been misgraded (although the marks/specks were pretty prominent) but to claim it was G1 in order to facilitate a sale just strikes me as dishonesty.
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@Jimbo
If you've a look on ebay, you'll find out that there are grade 1 bats with specks, so that's not the defying factor that a bat isn't grade 1.
And I couldn't find anywhere which stated its being grade 2, it's you who's making it for grade 2. Your starting auction was low for a bat of that quality regardless what grade that was.
Specks don't have any negative effect on a bat performance.
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@Jimbo
If you've a look on ebay, you'll find out that there are grade 1 bats with specks, so that's not the defying factor that a bat isn't grade 1.
And I couldn't find anywhere which stated its being grade 2, it's you who's making it for grade 2. Your starting auction was low for a bat of that quality regardless what grade that was.
Specks don't have any negative effect on a bat performance.
I stated, very clearly, in my listing that it was a grade 2, as graded by the manufacturer and previous seller. You are the only person who has chosen to claim it was a grade 1 in order to inflate the price and/or increase the chance of a sale.
Yes, the eBay auction price was low because I don't believe in massively inflating the price of cricket bats I am selling to try and con people out of their hard earned.
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@Jimbo
If you've a look on ebay, you'll find out that there are grade 1 bats with specks, so that's not the defying factor that a bat isn't grade 1.
And I couldn't find anywhere which stated its being grade 2, it's you who's making it for grade 2. Your starting auction was low for a bat of that quality regardless what grade that was.
Specks don't have any negative effect on a bat performance.
Jimbo is being quite clear that it is a grade 2, all you had to do is put in the listing description "the manufacturer graded this as a grade 2, however in my opinion it looks closer to a grade 1."
Instead, you are creating a silly argument.
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It’s good that threads like this exists, upgrading a bat to a 1 is the oldest con in the book on EBay so the more it’s highlighted the better.
Jimbo has followed the manufacturer which is the honest thing to do.
Anything else is done to get the unsuspecting to pay more.
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As I've said before I didn't find any information on Bellingham and Smith website or on their Facebook account, what these bats grading is.
@Jimbo
If you could provide me the evidence of this bat being grade 2, then I'll place my apologies on here, thanks
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You bought the bat as a clearly labelled grade 2 and then deliberately flogged it as a grade 1 to inflate the price.
I assume this thread will follow the usual pattern when you are called out. You’ll conveniently ignore all the well made points, then you’ll deliberately misinterpret someone’s point so you don’t have to answer the questions asked and finally you’ll have a strop and start claiming everyone is ganging up on you.
Like many others I’ve been using the ignore user feature, however your rambling threads always appear on the recent post list.
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As I've said before I didn't find any information on Bellingham and Smith website or on their Facebook account, what these bats grading is.
@Jimbo
If you could provide me the evidence of this bat being grade 2, then I'll place my apologies on here, thanks
From the JS Wright's website (the merchant that provide the willow to Bellingham and Smith). Grade 1 blades will have a minimum of 6 grains and the "playing area should be clean". A bat with heavy specks should not be graded as a G1. You know this, you're quite simply just a liar that seeks to inflate the price of his listings. You are no better than people that sell fakes and other such rubbish on eBay.
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As I've said before I didn't find any information on Bellingham and Smith website or on their Facebook account, what these bats grading is.
@Jimbo
If you could provide me the evidence of this bat being grade 2, then I'll place my apologies on here, thanks
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFhx3sNC/Screenshot-20220325-192846-e-Bay.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Bought from @t2ylo who I've only ever known to be scrupulously honest with his bat sales.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/rFhx3sNC/Screenshot-20220325-192846-e-Bay.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Bought from @t2ylo who I've only ever known to be scrupulously honest with his bat sales.
With all the respect I've for T2ylo,
You said as graded by manufacturer, but you didn't show evidence that it's graded 2 by B&S.
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From the JS Wright's website (the merchant that provide the willow to Bellingham and Smith). Grade 1 blades will have a minimum of 6 grains and the "playing area should be clean". A bat with heavy specks should not be graded as a G1. You know this, you're quite simply just a liar that seeks to inflate the price of his listings. You are no better than people that sell fakes and other such rubbish on eBay.
@LEACHY48
Didn't expect such harsh words from you and others in here, as I rated you all higher!
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A hit to the toe finger is not forgotten in the blink of an ear
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With all the respect I've for T2ylo,
You said as graded by manufacturer, but you didn't show evidence that it's graded 2 by B&S.
Pretty sure Leachy has shown that it sure as hell wasn't a G1 though as you've admitted the face was not clean. Just own up and apologise.
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Seriously @AJ2014 own your mistake
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The seller (me) did not agree to anything?
I sold it as a grade 2 because that is what B&S graded and sold it as.
I can only speculate about why you would have (falsely) claimed it was a grade 1 bat but I imagine you did so in order to massively inflate the price you were selling it for.
To me this is hugely dishonest and I struggle to believe that you don't also realise this.
@Jimbo, it's you who should be apologising!
Read your own words again! You are not able to provide any being proof of this bat being graded 2 by it's manufacturer; B&S!
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@Jimbo, it's you who should be apologising!
Read your own words again! You are not able to provide any being proof of this bat being graded 2 by it's manufacturer; B&S!
Are you able to provide proof it was graded a G1? Ah wait, by any industry standard it cannot be a grade one.
I'm not engaging with this any further because you are clearly unwilling to accept what you have done is dishonest and wrong.
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I accept my mistake and apologise for not including in it's listing that 'it might be a misgrading'.
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Are you able to provide proof it was graded a G1? Ah wait, by any industry standard it cannot be a grade one.
I'm not engaging with this any further because you are clearly unwilling to accept what you have done is dishonest and wrong.
@Jimbo, you didn't prove it to be grade 2 as you've claimed! So you're the one who's not honest!
The rest of it is allegations and speculations!
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Jimbo listed it as a G2 as that's what he was sold it as. You've upgraded it yourself and sold at a profit. Dunno how much clearer it must be made that you're being dodgy as heck.
It's not a mistake, folks shouldn't tell him that he has to own up to his mistakes. It was intentional, he clearly isn't remorseful as is just a liar. Pulled the same $#!+ with a CA bat previously and has done it with a G2 B&S.
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Apologies, when I said own his mistake I didn’t mean to make it seem an honest mistake. Clearly he’s ripped someone off and that’s his mistake, must have needed the money to pay annual subs for one of the many clubs he tried to get a game at last season
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Why are we still entertaining this muppet?
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Why are we still entertaining this muppet?
Exactly what I was thinking. He’s getting the attention he is so obviously craving
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Why are we still entertaining this muppet?
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMF1pR8f/6a3rwd.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You can spend years building a reputation, but it takes just one moment to destroy it.
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The con artist returns...hopefully, not for too long!
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Had a good net yesterday.
League starts on 17th April here!