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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Thamesvalley on September 12, 2022, 08:23:02 AM
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Who’s got one and anyone willing to share pics
How’s the pressing
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I've got one.
Its the 5 Star version and it is very nice. Excellent pressing.
I can't be bothered to try and upload the photo's as it's a bit of a nightmare.
I liked the one I bought so much...I ordered another one.
Thanks
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I also have one (mostly used by younger son) and agree with all of the above from JT
Same grade
Will be buying another as well
Full profile. Very well pressed.
I’m sure I’ve loaded pics and more details elsewhere on here
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I've got a Orca LE, amazing bat. Very well pressed. Not the softest out of the packet but have used it for half a season now and its starting to open up.
I bought from a retailer, didn't get the nicest bit of wood for the money but performance wise was well worthy of the grade. I'm in the middle of refurbing mine at the mo I'll upload some pics when done.
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I also have Orca LE. I bought it from a friend after he used it a bit. Very good bat with amazing pick up and feel. I might be ordering one more very soon.
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What sort of width do they have? Any concaving?
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Be good to know width front and back from the guys who have one
Seems from what the little I know ppl have not reported issues but keen to hear more
From what I have seen they can come full profile
The roar at 695 seems over priced but seems a great bat
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=49953.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=49953.0)
I don't recall many issues with width, but have heard some have been narrowed. Thing is some folks are ridiculous in what they request from batmakers - as if they can magically conjure up low density willow to make the profiles people like. Narrowing is an issue to be solved on both the consumer and manufacturer level IMO. Problem is Brand X will start narrowing to meet consumer demands, and Brand Y will have to compete somehow with that. All ends up happening across the board.
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Thanks Chad
Not attempted by the wcw Roar bat yet then ?
Don’t know anyone who’s got it and don’t a full review on social media yet either
We cricket had one but was not a review
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Thanks Chad
Not attempted by the wcw Roar bat yet then ?
Don’t know anyone who’s got it and don’t a full review on social media yet either
We cricket had one but was not a review
I mean you clearly are somewhat tempted - go buy one and review it for us. 😂 I say that as a jest, but I mean it - it is what I often end up doing.
700 is a lot to shell out on a bat. I've got far more bats than the vast majority of the cricket playing population - there's so much being etc. The one thing I can't get enough of is good honest craftsmanship and seeing the love behind making the bats.
I love a big gauge filling bat as much as the next fella, but not at the detriment of the actual art of making a bat look pleasing. The way the maker has deemed fit to select and manipulate the raw materials to a tool which brings joy to many, seeing the flowing arc of the spine, the blending of the profile and trying to figure out what kind of philosophy is applied by the batmaker. Seeing their trademarks and appreciating them for what they are. List goes on - that's kind of why I'm still here after a decade
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A fair response Chad
Many thanks for your pics and input as always
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😂 Fair point @Chad. @Thamesvalley Mike at WCW makes a lovely bat. If you can't get to visit, go to a store who stocks them. That way you can tell if you like them for yourself. If you can't do that, then you pays yer money as they say.
The thing with a review is that it's an opinion. Sure you'll get a sense of performance etc, but then people's expectations and feel differ. What is a great pick up to one person, may feel completely different to another.
What i would say is if you've seen people saying the lower Grade bats are good, then that should give you confidence. Whether you then feel it's viable to spend another 400 quid to get nice grains and potentially a bigger bat at lightweight, is completely down to you i suppose.
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someone has ....
(not me btw) lol
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very keen to try one of these soon - from the ones I have seen up close they have been very good and peoples who's opinions trust who own one - they have all raved about them.
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Was available this morning
Seems a good one big bat but seemed to be available for a while
Did anyone buy it from here as if they did maybe they can review it ?
Guessing from Chad previous message, unlikely to be the buyer.
Was a stunning profile
If the h4l took a while to sell partly because of a squeeze on incomes maybe ? The £695 roar likely has a smaller market
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Friend of my son went and visited WCW (not booked) and they were great in giving him and family a full tour around etc. This was a couple of weeks ago and at that time there was an eight week wait for a bat due to demand so something is working. They bought some gloves that they are very happy with and look very nice.
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What bat did they go for Lockie and we’re they offered any good deals as they are waiting a long time
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What bat did they go for Lockie and we’re they offered any good deals as they are waiting a long time
Why would you offer discounts/deals for bats that had a waiting list? I'm perplexed as to why you'd think they'd need to give discounts to sell if the turnaround time is 8 weeks due to demand...
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Of course they don’t need to but often it does happen when in a workshop or a deal is offered
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What bat did they go for Lockie and we’re they offered any good deals as they are waiting a long time
They didn't order one....I think had one been available they might have gone for it, they were on holiday in area so just checking them out.
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If they are pumping them out or getting decent traction in the uk ppl who are buying are not putting them up for resale
Very rare to see one on the bay
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They posted on Instagram recently they had workshop bats available.
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I’m sure they are decent bats and the branding is eye-catching. What surprises me is how they can suddenly afford to flood professional circuit with their bats.
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I only have seen a couple of people sponsored
Smeed and perhaps a couple others ? Who have I missed
They have been clever with social media
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Anyone seen the huge bat WCW showing online on social media
I think it’s a Chaos
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Buy it mate and do a review 😂
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Think like poster said it’s a 2 month wait so maybe In 2023 😂
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Anyone seen the huge bat WCW showing online on social media
I think it’s a Roar ..
I didn't really mention this, as I had assumed it might have been just me being ignorant - but have you got your brands mixed up? There's an SG Roar, but there's no WCW Roar...
Unless you're working for WCW and trying to tease a new range? In which case please do share
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Think like poster said it’s a 2 month wait so maybe In 2023 😂
https://www.instagram.com/p/CiLQf_KDXGQ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CiLQf_KDXGQ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Seems like they had some in stock on Sept 6th
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I’m sure they are decent bats and the branding is eye-catching. What surprises me is how they can suddenly afford to flood professional circuit with their bats.
Not when people will pay £700 for a bat it’s not really surprising, what’s surprising is that price point can be demanded by a new brand and people pay it. More than GM players or Keeley.
Some of the nicest branding wise to hit the market recently helps a lot with a younger market I imagine
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How much are they really selling
Who has a spare 700 these days ? The minority for sure
I haven’t seen any one show off their bat on social media
I have no idea of numbers but 700 for a new brand is great for business but i imagine they would sell more at 599 than 700 ?
How much would smeed be earning from them ?
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They've got bats at £250 and a range of junior bats at less. Imagine they make pretty good money selling those, especially given the graphics and Smeed's T20/100 record will appeal to kids.
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How much are they really selling
Who has a spare 700 these days ? The minority for sure
I haven’t seen any one show off their bat on social media
I have no idea of numbers but 700 for a new brand is great for business but i imagine they would sell more at 599 than 700 ?
How much would smeed be earning from them ?
As @Jimbo mentioned, they have other bats. Also, not everyone posts pics of their new bats on here let alone socials. I've sold to many forum members who haven't posted anything, which is fine as its not contractual 😆 People are busy, don't know how or simply don't want to. Doesn't mean they're not happy with what they've received.
Again, what constitutes a new business and what should determine price point? If a company (who have been around for a few years now) makes a good bat and feels people will pay it (sometimes that's down to location), then why should they not charge it? It's their flagship bat, will be limited in numbers due to clefts available, so they're probably not planning in selling thousands a year either.
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The bats look great to be fair, but I'm unlikely to buy one due to the prices. Don't begrudge them the prices though, at the end of the day they're selling a product and the power is with the consumer. Bats are pretty simple things and people are paying for the brand most of the time, let's be honest. Their business model is obviously to make top margins rather than try and sell volume, which is fine. The cricket industry could do with a few more brands trying to do it the other way round though!
WCW have definitely splashed out on county players round the South West, there's quite a few Glos and Somerset players with them now. Probably not top dollar players for the most part though.
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How much are they really selling
Who has a spare 700 these days ? The minority for sure
I haven’t seen any one show off their bat on social media
I have no idea of numbers but 700 for a new brand is great for business but i imagine they would sell more at 599 than 700 ?
How much would smeed be earning from them ?
A guy at my club bought 3 bats plus a kit bag, pads and gloves. He is early 20's - I guess their target market. The bats are unreal and more talked about than any others, within the team. WCW are doing something right!
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Get him on the forum
He might even enjoy it
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He wouldn't 😂
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so is there still such a waiting list for bats then? I was thinking about going down in a few weeks - I will email ahead just incase. I know they have a lot of bats (according to social media) in their racks - or is that just for show lol
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The brand has from almost out of nowhere engaged the younger members at my club.....most U18s now regard WCW as the benchmark of best bats and equipment . I think its the combination of the branding, the perception of a higher end brand and pricing that gives impression of buying quality. Plus add in online reviews of them, positive feedback from people who visited, stories that they make bats for many top pros builds that brand perception for many. They seem nice too.
I have started to see players at local clubs use their bats and they do look good and perform well. Equally, I am sure a bat purchased from one of the many top bat makers and brands on this forum will perform just as well.
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I picked this up at the back end of last week from Cricket Hockey. If anyone is down in the southwest I recommend a visit - nice little shop.
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I think I got abit lucky with this one - I would argue a mis grade to be honest (though I know some brands down grade heartwood. But a nice grain structure for a grade 3 for sure. I would also say its lower in density too as its a gauge filler and is only 2lb9oz.
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A few dents and marks from the shop - finishing not amazing but certainly not the worst I have purchased. However In terms of performance its very good and will only get better with some knocking.Pickup is good - prob feels slightly lighter than its dead weight . All in all at what Cricket hockey are selling these for I think its a lot of bat for the money. Whether itll make next seasons kit bag remains to be seen but certainly will see some net action when its knocked in.
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Bit of a shorter blade on that model?
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Yes that’s correct
But not a standard short blade long handle - seems smaller than a standard one (well this one does)
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Yes that’s correct
But not a standard short blade long handle - seems smaller than a standard one (well this one does)
When you inevitably decide to move it on let me know then 😂
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Looks a lovely stick mate. Hope it serves you well and if it does see some use, scores you plenty! WCW make some nice bats, so you won't go far wrong. What does it measure if its not standard? Also, is it filling the gauge? Looks to be some space the bottom in the pic.
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Yes perhaps not quite totally filling the gauge but it’s very full for the weight no doubt
Il have a look on the measurements but just putting it next to a short blade long handle it was smaller in the handle
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Very good bat you have there, if it doesn't make your kitbag next season you will have to let me know! ;)
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I picked this up at the back end of last week from Cricket Hockey. If anyone is down in the southwest I recommend a visit - nice little shop.
Lovely bat...didnt know Cricket Hockey stock WCW.
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The wcw from cricket hockey already on sale on the bay
I thought it was decent ?
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The wcw from cricket hockey already on sale on the bay
I thought it was decent ?
OK il bite - the bat is very good - nothing wrong with it. Not that I have to justify why I have decided to sell it but it is purely a financial reason. And with my last in first out rule - it goes.
Its a belter and someone will get an excellent bat for the price (as I did when I purchased it)
Cheers
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Was not trying to make you bite
Prob be gone soon now it’s been highlighted on here as ppl are keen on wcw
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Was not trying to make you bite
Prob be gone soon now it’s been highlighted on here as ppl are keen on wcw
You sure you don't work for them?! 😂😂😂
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Lol yeah I’m Mike in disguise ha ha
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Been impressed with your work too
Don’t take this the wrong way but the quality of your work seems to getting a lot of great feedback and service
Would you consider making a brand which isn’t your name for marketing and brand too like wcw have done ?
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Lol yeah I’m Mike in disguise ha ha
I'm beginning to think you are! 😂
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Been impressed with your work too
Don’t take this the wrong way but the quality of your work seems to getting a lot of great feedback and service
Would you consider making a brand which isn’t your name for marketing and brand too like wcw have done ?
Not quite sure what you mean by this. Scott Cricket is my brand. So do you mean would I consider seeing up a sub-brand, or making for another brand?
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Don’t take this the wrong way but the quality of your work seems to getting a lot of great feedback and service
I had to read that twice to make sure I read that right! :D :D
Why would anyone take praise in the wrong way?
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Set up a regional alternative to replace Scott, Yorkshire Class Willow 😂
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YCW with some hot branding and colours
Branding and colours is everything
Wcw wrestling bats are seen by the kids as cool but they have really nice stickers which look cool too
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YCW with some hot branding and colours
Branding and colours is everything
Wcw wrestling bats are seen by the kids as cool but they have really nice stickers which look cool too
Taking small ideas is alright, only so much you can do afterall, but ripping off something that is quite definitive of a brand is lazy and a bit of a pisstake IMO.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMNhJrR2/Screenshot-2022-09-23-at-16-23-45.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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YCW with some hot branding and colours
Branding and colours is everything
Wcw wrestling bats are seen by the kids as cool but they have really nice stickers which look cool too
Mike? Is that you?
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Taking small ideas is alright, only so much you can do afterall, but ripping off something that is quite definitive of a brand is lazy and a bit of a pisstake IMO.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMNhJrR2/Screenshot-2022-09-23-at-16-23-45.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Especially not when you rip it off so poorly, that's not even in the same league as WCW's branding.
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Looks like this guy got inspired by WCW. One of the bat pictures he posted had very WCW like stickers.
https://www.instagram.com/batfactoryy/ (https://www.instagram.com/batfactoryy/)
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Talking of which.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPQCqfW4/Screenshot-20220208-120228-Instagram.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCZP8Y5X)
And yes, I'd already had mine for quite a while before these cropped up! 😆
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Crikey!
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Wow 🤯
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I hope you are taking the copy as a compliment
Mike
Only kidding lol not Mike
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Talking of which.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPQCqfW4/Screenshot-20220208-120228-Instagram.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCZP8Y5X)
And yes, I'd already had mine for quite a while before these cropped up! 😆
See it as an achievement when the plagiarism starts... it is annoying and frustrating...
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Yeah, a compliment of sorts but mainly people being lazy. I paid a designer to create my stickers and had a bit of input. I was annoyed for him more than me, as he's a talented bloke and then just gets ripped off. Messaged the account who posted it and he actually video called me and said he'd take the post down. Then showed me his factory/workshop and his knock off SS, Kook, GM etc stickers.....then asked if I needed stickers printing! 😂 You have to admire the hustle!
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Not quite sure what you mean by this. Scott Cricket is my brand. So do you mean would I consider seeing up a sub-brand, or making for another brand?
@Thamesvalley ?
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Yes hence why I said don’t take offence
Set up a sub brand
Which is more more marketing/branding focused
The likes of wcw are not gonna come on here
You make a lot of effort, you could be very happy as things are
But you may consider a variation of a brand without your name which could appeal to a different market
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Yeah, a compliment of sorts but mainly people being lazy. I paid a designer to create my stickers and had a bit of input. I was annoyed for him more than me, as he's a talented bloke and then just gets ripped off. Messaged the account who posted it and he actually video called me and said he'd take the post down. Then showed me his factory/workshop and his knock off SS, Kook, GM etc stickers.....then asked if I needed stickers printing! 😂 You have to admire the hustle!
No shame...
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Yes hence why I said don’t take offence
Set up a sub brand
Which is more more marketing/branding focused
The likes of wcw are not gonna come on here
You make a lot of effort, you could be very happy as things are
But you may consider a variation of a brand without your name which could appeal to a different market
What you're saying is he should make different stickers and brands to cater for everyone??? Surely he's doing the right thing and building a quality brand and not diluting his efforts...
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Hence why I said don’t take offence
It’s not a criticism nor am I suggesting you do that
I preempted what I said and also was asked again and I clarified
It was not an attempt to criticise a brand or take a dig
Ultimately it’s a business and generally brands with strong branding make more money and charge more
That may not be what’s desired and that’s fair enough
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Yes hence why I said don’t take offence
Set up a sub brand
Which is more more marketing/branding focused
The likes of wcw are not gonna come on here
You make a lot of effort, you could be very happy as things are
But you may consider a variation of a brand without your name which could appeal to a different market
I'm pretty happy with my branding mate tbh. Not quite sure how I'd find the time to undertake running two brands on my own. Not to mention the fact you're then looking at double costs on designers, stickers, pads, gloves, bags etc etc. Setting up, running and funding a business isn't easy, especially when you're doing the making also. So effectively running two would be almost impossible, for me at least.
For some people, there's also more to consider than branding and stickers thankfully. A lot more has gone into WCW too other than stickers and branding. Nothing against brands who don't make, there are some great ones out there. But i actually enjoy making bats and just want to earn a relatively decent living doing something i enjoy.
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No shame...
In fairness i kind of admired the front. Had a mild go at him for ripping off my stickers, then showed me other brands stickers he'd ripped off, then asked if i needed stickers. It was quite funny tbf 😆
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I'm pretty happy with my branding mate tbh. Not quite sure how is find the time to undertake running two brands on my own. Not to mention the fact you're then looking away double costs on designers, stickers, pads, gloves, bags etc etc.
For some people, there's more to consider than branding and stickers thankfully. A lot more has gone into WCW too other than stickers and branding
Personally I'm a big fan of Jonny's branding, clean and smart looking. WCW obviously is aimed at a slightly different market but that's the fun of having so many different companies out there, somebody does kit that you'll like!
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Sounds good you’re doing a great job anyhow
Likes of those top end prices wcw etx will be hit anyway as economic doom is impending
- high interest rates etx etx
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Personally I'm a big fan of Jonny's branding, clean and smart looking. WCW obviously is aimed at a slightly different market but that's the fun of having so many different companies out there, somebody does kit that you'll like!
Agree I like them also...just put them on 2 bats jonny refurbed...
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Sadly there not much originality or innovation in the cricket market. People see a product they like and replicate it. 🙄
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Sadly there not much originality or innovation in the cricket market. People see a product they like and replicate it. 🙄
Agree mate, but it's pretty difficult to innovate. You've been there, don't that. But it will become harder to do so with things going the way they are. Regs on bat size, materials to be used etc. The lawmakers don't help to encourage innovation (as you know all too well! 😂).
In terms of branding etc, it's difficult to try and hit something which everyone will like. I have 4 colours in my stickers and still people ask me to get others, but then you're outlaying for another x amount of sets, on top of the ones you've got. You can't ever please everyone
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they seem to have put their prices up again - £725 for a Chaos now....
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Is that a 30 pounds increase ?
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they seem to have put their prices up again - £725 for a Chaos now....
Tenner more than even M&H's top stick. Mental
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I'm yet to see anyone with s chaos but have seen quite a few of the lower grades. It's quite interesting how almost all of the pros are using the chaos, other brands like GM/ GN like to have their pros use the whole product range.
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Is the chaos the most expensive bat from a uk bat maker ?
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Is the chaos the most expensive bat from a uk bat maker ?
Keeley do a gold edition 1k GBP bat