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Title: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 03, 2022, 04:43:42 PM
I have been informed that Adidas are pulling out of the cricket teamwear market; is this correct?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: ch1p on October 03, 2022, 05:28:13 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 03, 2022, 06:00:05 PM
What does that mean for club's that have Adidas as their kit supplier?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 03, 2022, 08:20:52 PM
They’ll need to move elsewhere
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 03, 2022, 10:41:09 PM
What does that mean for club's that have Adidas as their kit supplier?

They'll be open to offers from Warsop?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 07:48:21 AM
They'll be open to offers from Warsop?
My own club kit and teamwear has been supplied by Warsop (which consists of short and long sleeve playing shirts, playing trousers, fleece lined and knitted style slipovers, baggy cap, baseball cap, beanie, gilet, bucket hat, hoodie, jacket, kit bag, shorts, polo shirt, pom pom hat, snapback, sun hat and tracksuit bottoms) with the club badge embroidered onto each of the items along with my initials on a few of them and they even personalised my Warsop Platinum Pro Duffle Bag with the club badge and my initials.

I am not keen on Adidas (I prefer Nike as my spiked trainers are Nike) along with the supplier All Rounder Cricket with their prices, turnaround and delivery.

I have been in contact with Fenton Sports and Serious Cricket; along with Shrey being in contact.

The only problem is that a lot of senior players at the club already have the majority of the club's Adidas kit and teamwear, therefore are reluctant to buy whole new kit and teamwear. It would be nice for both the adults and colts to have the same kit/teamwear manufacturer. As Adidas are actually pulling out of the cricket kit/teamwear market, what does that mean with our current supplier?

However, our colts section used an alternative supplier for last season for their kit (only) due to costs but they were let down by their supplier and were not happy with the quality.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 07:48:53 AM
They’ll need to move elsewhere
I have been looking into moving elsewhere.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 04, 2022, 08:19:04 AM
We've used TNF Cricket for the last 2 seasons, adidas are going from the cricket market entirely not just teamwear just an as FYI.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 09:27:42 AM
Why does club teamwear need to be branded?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 10:18:29 AM
Why does club teamwear need to be branded?
This is my Chingford Cricket Club kit/teamwear that was supplied by Warsop:

Playing Shirts:

(https://i.imgur.com/xm2ipzD.jpg)

Slipovers:

(https://i.imgur.com/Kcu3PCC.jpg)

T-Shirt & Polo Shirt

(https://i.imgur.com/fDMHFih.jpg)

Jacket & Gilet:

(https://i.imgur.com/qHbZclm.jpg)

Hoodie:

(https://i.imgur.com/sO4iNks.jpg)

Headwear:

(https://i.imgur.com/B4S69hn.jpg)
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 11:07:43 AM
Looks perfectly functional. But doesn't really answer the question.
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Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 11:16:49 AM
Looks perfectly functional. But doesn't really answer the question.
The majority of the teamwear is unbranded but Warsop have embroidered their logo onto the majority of their items.

In answer to your question; "Why does club teamwear need to be branded?", it does not have to be, it is down to the preference of the club and the players I would guess, based on the responses I got from my fellow club mates.

When I done a comparison between price between Warsop and All Rounder, there were saving about 50%.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: jonny77 on October 04, 2022, 11:35:09 AM
Looks perfectly functional. But doesn't really answer the question.

No, but it advertises Warsop! 😆
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: SD on October 04, 2022, 11:40:28 AM
Our previous kit supplier used Adidas.  The playing kit was excellent so they will be a loss to the market.

We currently have a Club Shop directly with Shrey. As with any supplier, there are good sides and bad sides to working with them
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 12:11:04 PM
No, but it advertises Warsop! 😆

But Warsop are not paying the club or player. They are being paid to supply the kit!
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 12:15:34 PM
If kit was unbranded, the club would not have the 'problem' of brands not matching from season to season.

If Adidas (or any other brand) was backing the club financially and/or supplying the kit for free it would be a different matter.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: six and out on October 04, 2022, 12:17:39 PM
not sure i really get this thread........ your club's teamwear is from Warsop..... you aren't keen on Adidas they are stopping in Cricket anyways, so what is the problem?

If you don't want everyone to have different looking kit........ then don't change it.

TBH though you will do well to find a club that doesn't have different versions of training kit around at nets - because there is always people who don't want to buy new stuff when it gets changed over the years - and you simply can't force people to.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 12:28:39 PM
No, the club wears Adidas. The Thornster does his own thing and gets his stuff from Warsop.

I do not wish to speculate as to whether this has any impact on his popularity at the club.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 12:46:08 PM
not sure i really get this thread........ your club's teamwear is from Warsop..... you aren't keen on Adidas they are stopping in Cricket anyways, so what is the problem?

If you don't want everyone to have different looking kit........ then don't change it.

TBH though you will do well to find a club that doesn't have different versions of training kit around at nets - because there is always people who don't want to buy new stuff when it gets changed over the years - and you simply can't force people to.
Chingford Cricket Club's "clothing" supplier is All Rounder (https://www.allroundercricket.com/teamwear/cricket-teamwear/c/chingford-cc (https://www.allroundercricket.com/teamwear/cricket-teamwear/c/chingford-cc)), who supply the Adidas kit/teamwear; as previously mentioned I am not keen on Adidas and with negative reviews from fellow club members regarding All Rounder's prices (clothing and embroidery), production (turnaround time for embroidery et cetera) and delivery; I decided to source my own kit/teamwear from Warsop. It is all a matter of preference especially when some members get free clothing from Daniel Lawrence and Jamie Porter.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 12:49:13 PM
No, the club wears Adidas. The Thornster does his own thing and gets his stuff from Warsop.

I do not wish to speculate as to whether this has any impact on his popularity at the club.
"Thornster"; I've never been called that. I clearly have some popularity at my club as I run the adults indoor cricket team, work behind the bar and the majority of my cricket bat repairs, refurbishments and maintenance is from other club members.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: six and out on October 04, 2022, 01:48:33 PM
Chingford Cricket Club's "clothing" supplier is All Rounder (https://www.allroundercricket.com/teamwear/cricket-teamwear/c/chingford-cc (https://www.allroundercricket.com/teamwear/cricket-teamwear/c/chingford-cc)), who supply the Adidas kit/teamwear; as previously mentioned I am not keen on Adidas and with negative reviews from fellow club members regarding All Rounder's prices (clothing and embroidery), production (turnaround time for embroidery et cetera) and delivery; I decided to source my own kit/teamwear from Warsop. It is all a matter of preference especially when some members get free clothing from Daniel Lawrence and Jamie Porter.

Ah ok, apologies didn't realise this part of it.

I have heard these sort of reviews about All Rounder from other clubs.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 04, 2022, 01:54:57 PM
Ah ok, apologies didn't realise this part of it.

I have heard these sort of reviews about All Rounder from other clubs.
I probably did over complicate it slightly.

As Adidas have pulled the plug on the cricketing market; what does this mean for All Rounder? Do they hold enough supply to meet demand?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 04, 2022, 03:16:55 PM
I would imagine All Rounder will offer you another brand.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Warneymonster on October 04, 2022, 03:57:06 PM
its no shock they are pulling out of the equipment side but i am surprised at teamwear as surely this is a license to print money for them, all they need to do it supply it to resellers to do the majority of the work

for all rounder this must by slightly worrying as was their main brand, and most of their business. im sure the other brands will be keen to step in though,
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: SD on October 05, 2022, 04:19:10 PM
its no shock they are pulling out of the equipment side but i am surprised at teamwear as surely this is a license to print money for them, all they need to do it supply it to resellers to do the majority of the work

for all rounder this must by slightly worrying as was their main brand, and most of their business. im sure the other brands will be keen to step in though,

I have no time for all rounder - we set up a club shop with them at the end of one season and had moved to another before the start of the next because they were so bad - but I agree that it is bad news for them.  It does seem a surprising move for Adidas though
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 05, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
The only problem is, that at my cricket club, majority of the adult players have the Adidas kit/teamwear and are very reluctant to purchase all new kit/teamwear.

As previously mentioned, our colts do not use the Adidas kit/teamwear and if they were to obtain kit/teamwear from All Rounder, it is likely not to be fulfilled plus the parents of the colts are very reluctant to pay All Rounder's prices especially if they have more than one child within the colts hence why the colts committee decided a different approach and obtain their own kit (short sleeve playing shirts, playing trousers and cap) from one of the coaches' suppliers.

I think as a club with a proud history with the likes of Dan Lawrence (Essex and England) and Jamie Porter (Essex) coming through our ranks; it would be nice for both adults and colts to have the same kit/teamwear, especially when colts play adult cricket. Having played in the lower teams of the club, you see the mismatch in kit (even though I am one of those because of my preferences) between the adults and colts.

I am hoping that the club and its adults' and colts' members, agree that we should look at alternative suppliers in the light of Adidas' news and we will be able to have both adults and colts wearing the same kit/teamwear at an affordable price.

That is my rant over and I do apologise; I just have very strong beliefs in this matter.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: cricketbadger on October 05, 2022, 07:27:54 PM
The only problem is, that at my cricket club, majority of the adult players have the Adidas kit/teamwear and are very reluctant to purchase all new kit/teamwear.

As previously mentioned, our colts do not use the Adidas kit/teamwear and if they were to obtain kit/teamwear from All Rounder, it is likely not to be fulfilled plus the parents of the colts are very reluctant to pay All Rounder's prices especially if they have more than one child within the colts hence why the colts committee decided a different approach and obtain their own kit (short sleeve playing shirts, playing trousers and cap) from one of the coaches' suppliers.

I think as a club with a proud history with the likes of Dan Lawrence (Essex and England) and Jamie Porter (Essex) coming through our ranks; it would be nice for both adults and colts to have the same kit/teamwear, especially when colts play adult cricket. Having played in the lower teams of the club, you see the mismatch in kit (even though I am one of those because of my preferences) between the adults and colts.

I am hoping that the club and its adults' and colts' members, agree that we should look at alternative suppliers in the light of Adidas' news and we will be able to have both adults and colts wearing the same kit/teamwear at an affordable price.

That is my rant over and I do apologise; I just have very strong beliefs in this matter.

Find a new, cheaper supplier then. Plenty about
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 06, 2022, 06:47:37 AM
Shrey, Masuri, kukri, TNF, SS to name a few. Go direct to source rather than via.  Retailer who are adding their mark up on top.

Sublimated kits can inc all the club logos/sponsors now to avoid any secondary printing/embroidery costs and lead times. You can also design the kit to make it custom to your club like we did below.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B689nMRT/C328-FD06-D315-47-A1-8-CD5-994-F636-CCE33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fthgHjzy)

I’m in the early stages of sorting out an offering via A2 currently so looking to being with some local club to me for 2023 to begin with.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Warneymonster on October 06, 2022, 03:52:39 PM
i dont think allrounder are that bad, they made a mistake a few years ago moving to screen printing but realized it quickly and remedied it. Its harsh to criticize the pricing as they are dictated by adidas pricing to them, try finding it much cheaper elsewhere - have to make a profit as well.

service wise they are no worse than any teamwear supplier, timescales was always an issue but that is probably down to sheer weight of orders all coming in at similar times, we use Masuri/NXT as well and they are no different.

its annoying from a club point of view as we all now need to find alternative kits, its a time and hassle nobody wants.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Jimbo on October 06, 2022, 04:11:39 PM
I'm a big fan of the GN teamwear my club signed up for. It's all pretty good quality, they deliver fast, customer service and returns have been excellent to date, and they do a loyalty scheme for discount vouchers, etc.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Frontfootdrive on October 06, 2022, 05:24:51 PM
We had All Rounder 2 seasons ago and our experience mirrored many others on here so i don`t think coincidence...

We are GN now and its hard to fault,quick,easy and their Pro Performance range quality and reasonably priced.....my Sleeveless Pullover was ordered on a Monday and arrived on the Friday of the same week !
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on October 06, 2022, 09:13:47 PM
It doesn't seem likely that Gray-Nicolls will be leaving the cricket market any time soon.  ;)
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: SD on October 07, 2022, 01:44:49 PM
i dont think allrounder are that bad, they made a mistake a few years ago moving to screen printing but realized it quickly and remedied it. Its harsh to criticize the pricing as they are dictated by adidas pricing to them, try finding it much cheaper elsewhere - have to make a profit as well.

service wise they are no worse than any teamwear supplier, timescales was always an issue but that is probably down to sheer weight of orders all coming in at similar times, we use Masuri/NXT as well and they are no different.

its annoying from a club point of view as we all now need to find alternative kits, its a time and hassle nobody wants.

I have to say that I disagree entirely that All Rounder are no worse than any other provider.

We use Shrey at the moment and haven't had to wait more than 5 working days for an order. That includes two orders  for 50+ items in late March.

All Rounder took over 2 months to turn around single orders during the winter. Customer Sevice is terrible. If they answer customer service at all, it is to give commitments to deliver within timescales that they then fail to keep to.  Judging from general feedback, this appears to be fairly standard stuff for them.

Ultimately they have taken on too many contracts without the capacity to fulfil them
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 07, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
I am currently in conversations with Fenton Sports (Essex based), Serious Sport, TNF, Warsop, and Shrey.

I have contacted All Rounder by e-mail earlier this week and I have not received a response and I am not holding my breathe that they will. I have informed the powers that be at my cricket club just in case the worse should happen, as it is better to be prepare.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Jimbo on October 07, 2022, 08:26:11 PM
Any reason why you wouldn't consider GN?
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: SurreySam on October 08, 2022, 09:07:33 AM
Masuri are great to deal with too.
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Post by: Julesoak on October 08, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
Masuri are great to deal with too.


Seconded - worked really well for us. Nice gear as well.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on October 10, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
Any reason why you wouldn't consider GN?
Fenton Sports specifically deal with GN.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Neon Cricket on October 11, 2022, 06:41:07 AM
GN clothing is OK - we've used it for a few years now via Sporting Billy. The quality isn't Adidas, but it's pretty good for the price and generally most the club members are happy (aside from the side panels on the pro shirts tearing annually but that's more from us throwing ourselves around). The service from Sporting Billy is by far the best of any retailer I've used over the years so would happily recommend them whether you're local to Wilts or elsewhere.

Oddly, when I originally spoke to GN about getting a club shop directly with them they were quoting more to have their own club shop than dealing with Sporting Billy (again with a club shop). The sales rep kept banging on about how club members would get a discount off GN by going direct but wanted to charge an extra 15/20% in the first place for the kit (even after having sent him the retailers prices!?). Was all a bit odd really, even matching the prices of the retailer would've made them more profit so couldn't quite get my head around it all!

Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: dantsw13 on November 10, 2022, 07:09:41 PM
GN is based in our village and we stopped using them for our club kit.........

We use SS now and the quality is pretty good. At the start of the season they do a discount for a bulk buy.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on November 10, 2022, 08:14:02 PM
GN is based in our village and we stopped using them for our club kit.........

We use SS now and the quality is pretty good. At the start of the season they do a discount for a bulk buy.
SS kit is really good. Just a nightmare getting what you order.
Title: Re: Adidas Teamwear
Post by: Thorne_Cricket on November 14, 2022, 10:33:37 AM
I have carried out my own considerable amount of research as well as contacting various companies; I have been specifically been in contact with Kit Locker and have acquired full kit samples for myself with their Nike range; so looking forward to receiving it before Christmas.