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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Keeley Cricket => Topic started by: jjelricksmith on August 04, 2023, 02:34:01 PM
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Really keen to pickup a Keeley so I'm keeping an eye out on their Instagram pretty regularly. Am I the only person thinking these sales posts are utterly ridiculous. 2 bits of wood which look like G2/3 but due to them being a certain spec are up for £750?????? They all seem to sell very quickly too, does anyone know someone who has purchased one of these and would care to share a review?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvhm7KUIJx9/?img_index=1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvhm7KUIJx9/?img_index=1)
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That is a lot of money for a bat.
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So glad I hoarded bats when I did. :D
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Plenty people who have enough money to not mind being easily parted from £750 of it I suppose.
I suppose you could argue though that pricing up for specs is no more arbitrary than pricing up by purely cosmetic grading systems.
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Whilst I agree the price is high, the difference here is that they’re pro spec bats - high performing, lightweight clefts that have (in the example linked above) been made to gauge filling specs in the profile Livingstone uses. If you want a massive bat that performs as well as anything you’ll get your hands on, this is basically it.
I’ve been fortunate enough to get my hands on quite a number of ex-pro bats (normally damaged to the point of being retired from use or needing major repairs to keep them going) and there’s only a handful that would be classed as G1 in terms of aesthetics. The majority of pros don’t seem to share the obsession about grains, they are after tools for the job which perform incredibly well. Some of the best ‘ping’ I’ve found came from bats that cosmetically many would scoff at.
Keeley will make you a beautiful with tight, straight grains if that’s what you’re after, they’ll also make you something that will perform extremely well regardless of cosmetics if that’s what you want. The top international players are lucky enough to get both, but for the retail buyer it’s often a case of understanding your priority and choosing accordingly. Would I pay £750 for one of those? Well, I nearly did - but couldn’t quite justify the cost on a couple of levels.
For what it’s worth, give me brilliant pressing of a bat with uneven clustered grains and loads of heartwood any day - they often ping like mad 😅
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Keeley have some Nick Keeley Pro bats for £750 if you want a bargain seems they have shut up £100 as they seemed to always be £650. Maybe Nick is the master bat maker lol
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Yes bizarre
I think they were shorter blade ?
750 wow I dread to think next year
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No but these are Liam Livingston pro bats...
So must be worth the extra money
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No but these are Liam Livingston pro bats...
So must be worth the extra money
But @Buzz he uses SG so how can they be ;)lol
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No but these are Liam Livingston pro bats...
So must be worth the extra money
Or just 'pro grade' in the Livingston profile. No mention they were intended for any pro. The sooner the word 'Specs' is banned for use in relation to cricket bats, the less £750 bats you'll see
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Or just 'pro grade' in the Livingston profile. No mention they were intended for any pro. The sooner the word 'Specs' is banned for use in relation to cricket bats, the less £750 bats you'll see
The new bat I got from Jonny looked a belter, but I couldn’t be sure as I had forgotten my specs! 😁
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Who’s bought all the Keeley bats today then
Gone in 5 mins
Not sure if they were T or N specials ?
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G3 for 200 isn't bad at all but I'm sure I've seen Keeleys for cheaper on sale elsewhere.
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Think a few years back they were £160 - but still, in today's market, £200 is a very good price point for G3 bats from high end boutique makers.
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Did you buy any Chad today ?
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Grade 2 sale about to go live apparently. Be some CBF members spending some brass today! 😆
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Be great to see some pics of what they bought so can admire
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Haven't bought any mate. I've got two bats, why would I need anymore?! 😆 Obviously wouldn't quite look right if I didn't use my own brand either would it
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Haven't bought any mate. I've got two bats, why would I need anymore?! 😆 Obviously wouldn't quite look right if I didn't use my own brand either would it
A mere two bats? Call yourself a CBF member 😂
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Yeah I didn’t think you would buy any why would you when you make bats
Although you could be a bat hoarder like many others lol
If anyone has bought be great to see to keep chat going
Or anyone buys the upcoming g2 although they do seem delayed …
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A mere two bats? Call yourself a CBF member 😂
Criminal I know! I made a new one for myself earlier this season, only used it for the first time last Saturday. My other ones just going too well, but the new one is gonna be a beaut!
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Did you buy any Chad today ?
Love how you always ask if I've bought any hahaha. No, I haven't. [size=78%]😂[/size]
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I thought it was the first time I asked …
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Keeley grade 2 sold out as well
I think they were 315 … keeleys don’t hang about , it seems .
They didn’t look that impressive to me looks wise but the branding and the rep sells them I guess (appreciate it’s not all about looks )
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I am glad I kept my one and only Keeley. Seems a bargain now at 270 for a grade 2.
These new prices, not sure how justified they are, clearly people are willing to pay. 750 for a bat... wowsers! They aren't the only brand though are they selling at really high prices.
PS I am more concerned with soft goods price hikes!
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Would you like to pay rent or own a Keeley? lol
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Keeley selling some bats one offs a bit cheaper now than the usual price
Regular posts one off bat sales , they seem to be snapped up within 30 mins sometimes sooner
Noticed wcw tried same thing but didn’t suggest they sold and then stopped doing it …
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latest one a 'SUB' due to crack in shoulder. £1000 reduced to £800.
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Mental note, must charge more for my sub bats! 😆
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Just seems a bit naughty that one …
Does anyone agree ? If not no worries
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A 'sub' bat for £800, Jesus...
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In fairness, it doesn't look much in terms of damage and it's a lovely looking bat other than that. This is what demand for light, grainy, big bats does.
The more people will accept 5 grainers with 30mm edges instead, the more people won't be able to charge such amounts for these bats. Big, light and grainy are rarer to come by and people obviously want them. So people will put them up for premium prices.
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I just noticed it’s Also that blue willow
So comes cheaper from suppliers ? Is that fair to say ?
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Just seems a bit naughty that one …
Does anyone agree ? If not no worries
Mental is what it is! This is getting ridiculous now!
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It feels wrong
If one complains to Keeley saying this is taking the mick
They won’t sell to you again most likely …
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Law of economics normally means what goes up must come down :)
Except the last 5 years of cricket bat prices it’s been a vertical line.
I think it’s absolutely mad for anyone whatever standard to pay the price for this bat.
Personally I hope Keeley start going over 1000 and up to 1500 because at some point those smaller batmakers of which we are lucky to have may of…will benefit more from the club cricketer who wants a decent but but does not have a grand spare. So their sales may increase.
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Just to put this into perspective you could get these 3 that are G1, G2 and G3 and still have £200 left in your pocket for the price of that Keeley or £400 if paying full price. Now I know I don’t have the experience or the skills of a master but surely that’s not worth paying an extra £700 for a single bat from the likes of myself, Jonny, Reaper etc is it??
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If people keep buying them Certain bat makers won’t stop
Also puts into context other bat makers sales recently
Salix we’re offering good value in august
A kember is also classed as a master bat maker i believe, and although you don’t get flash sales they also don’t sell bats at 800 or a 1000 …
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Keeley has earned the reputation and makes very very good bats. So if he's charging that and getting it, then fair play. You cold debate whether it's worth it, or whether there is better value elsewhere, but if people are paying it then fair enough I suppose.
Hopefully what @ppccopener says will happen, and does I suppose to some extent. But more likely most people will buy cheap bats from the subcontinent as they're generally 'bigger'.
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That's the way a lot of my club go, cheap Indian or Pakistani made bats and they'll have a new one every season because it's smashed to bits or the handle has gone.
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I was chatting to Tim about this very topic, and his exact response was "it's got my name on it mate and people buy it"
So until people stop buying it, why wouldn't he charge as much as he possibly can? He's in the business of making a living afterall
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I was chatting to Tim about this very topic, and his exact response was "it's got my name on it mate and people buy it"
So until people stop buying it, why wouldn't he charge as much as he possibly can? He's in the business of making a living afterall
Totally agree, whereas I personally wouldn't pay £650, people will and as a business why wouldn't he. If you are the 'Ferrari' of the cricket world and all the pros come to you, why would you sell at 'Yugo' or 'VW' prices.
TBF if you are paying that much at least you know you are buying from a legendary batmaker.
I'll stick to non Ferraris though :D (Don't shoot me down if I come to buy a bat from you ;) )
Some fantastic value to be had in other brands.
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I was chatting to Tim about this very topic, and his exact response was "it's got my name on it mate and people buy it"
So until people stop buying it, why wouldn't he charge as much as he possibly can? He's in the business of making a living afterall
Spot on. There’s room in the market for everyone, from the best value smaller batmakers through to the giants of the batmaking world. They definitely don’t struggle to sell ‘em!
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For sure Keeley charging the best price they can is understandable, but it's not a situation that's without losers - boosting prices because you can still pulls the whole market upwards, which isn't great for the end consumer. Easy for a smaller maker to justify high prices when Keeley is sending them out the door at £800, and even necessary at times as really the only thing separating two similar bats from different brands is the branding. Sell yours cheaper and many consumers will view them as inferior products.
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I am glad I am well stocked with my 15 keeleys. I can’t afford to buy any new ones anymore.
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Any pics of your collection
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There should be in this thread
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47353.30 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=47353.30)
Page 2 or 3. I posted few of them.
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For sure Keeley charging the best price they can is understandable, but it's not a situation that's without losers - boosting prices because you can still pulls the whole market upwards, which isn't great for the end consumer. Easy for a smaller maker to justify high prices when Keeley is sending them out the door at £800, and even necessary at times as really the only thing separating two similar bats from different brands is the branding. Sell yours cheaper and many consumers will view them as inferior products.
I guess the real losers would be us bat badgers who would see our expenditure rise significantly… it’s probably neither here or there to the ‘average club cricketer’ who only (sensibly) changes their bat every few years 😅
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I guess the real losers would be us bat badgers who would see our expenditure rise significantly… it’s probably neither here or there to the ‘average club cricketer’ who only (sensibly) changes their bat every few years 😅
Everyone would feel it, but there are cheaper options. As with most things. I'm looking at new irons for golf as mine are getting on a bit, paid £800 for them 8 years ago and the equivalent ones now are £1300. Will I pay it? Maybe, but if I wanted there are options for £400. Can't say I'm happy about it though! 😂
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Everyone would feel it, but there are cheaper options. As with most things. I'm looking at new irons for golf as mine are getting on a bit, paid £800 for them 8 years ago and the equivalent ones now are £1300. Will I pay it? Maybe, but if I wanted there are options for £400. Can't say I'm happy about it though! 😂
Which ones have the biggest edges? :D
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Which ones have the biggest edges? :D
Surely you want a thin (top) edge and no offset. 😂
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Surely you want a thin (top) edge and no offset. 😂
You got it @Buzz No chunky topline on my irons thanks. Although all drivers fill the gauge I suppose at 460cc
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Which ones have the biggest edges? :D
Specs is probably way more relevant in golf tbf 😂 Although if Taylor Mades promise of a 17 yard gain with every driver they've brought out every year for the past 10 years we're true, and you'd upgraded every year. You'd be hitting it probably 420 yards off the tee by now! Marketing can really suck amateur sports people in.
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Just watching the highlights and see the Ahmed is using TOn kit so no more Pro Ahmed profiles then. I know he is ok with the bat but seems weird that TON I assume offered £££ to sponsor him
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Just watching the highlights and see the Ahmed is using TOn kit so no more Pro Ahmed profiles then. I know he is ok with the bat but seems weird that TON I assume offered £££ to sponsor him
Exciting young player who has marketable appeal to the Asian community who, anecdotally, buy more TON bats?
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Just watching the highlights and see the Ahmed is using TOn kit so no more Pro Ahmed profiles then. I know he is ok with the bat but seems weird that TON I assume offered £££ to sponsor him
They sell plenty of Kohli pro profiles so not sure it’ll stop them.
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At that early level of career
How does it work … 20 k per annum 1 year rolling contract, or would it be more lucrative ?
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Keeley may knock a few quid off on Rehan Ahmed profiles. Only the £699.99 instead of the £800.
May even throw in free postage too if we’re lucky
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Thought they might want to keep him
Keeley isn’t SS Ton money wise but would have thought they would have wanted to keep the young Asian star for international tv limelight
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Thought they might want to keep him
Keeley isn’t SS Ton money wise but would have thought they would have wanted to keep the young Asian star for international tv limelight
Doesn't matter what they want, they can't match the financial power of someone as massive as SS/TON.
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At that early level of career
How does it work … 20 k per annum 1 year rolling contract, or would it be more lucrative ?
Most SS contracts are appearance/performance based only, but can add up to big money for the regular players/performers.
Keeley wouldn't have been paying anything close to what SS will pay, if anything at all
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Thanks for adding the above
Intriguing and interesting to know.
They just incentivise on performance and appearance nicely as so many have moved to them from England .
I guess Keeley can sell these 800 to 1000 bats anyhow
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and players wouldn't dare use a keeley which is stickered up with someone else's stickers.
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