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Title: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 11:53:23 AM
Kind of a Weird topic, can anyone bowl one? I can bowl a sick one with a tennis ball and an even better one with a plastic ball, can bowl a semi decent one from 12-15 yards with a cricket ball but big struggle to get it any further.... So for all you Leggies and show offs, tell us what you can do!?
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: roco on April 04, 2010, 11:59:20 AM
Just practice but very few leg spinners can bowl all the deliverys I can't bowl a googly but I still get wickets as I use what I have as more of a kumble bowler but for pro advice just look up a terry Jenner video he explains all better than anyone else will
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 12:01:37 PM
Just practice but very few leg spinners can bowl all the deliverys I can't bowl a googly but I still get wickets as I use what I have as more of a kumble bowler but for pro advice just look up a terry Jenner video he explains all better than anyone else will

Yeah I've seen it and I know how to bowl it just can't very well! lol. I can bowl a googly and a toppie and all the rest. :) just not enough finger strength for the flipper.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: espocrespo on April 04, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
i can but i don't always do it on purpose, i have a dodgy action, and almost every ball i bowl comes out slightly differently, the only delivery i can bowl consistently is a googly, im better at a googly than a leg spinner, but i can bowl flippers, all be it often i do not mean to bowl them
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 12:06:32 PM
Heh? For a flipper you have to move your thumb around to the back of the ball.... how can you do that by accident!? lol
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: roco on April 04, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
All I bowl is the leggie, slider some times flipper but rare really quick one(as used to be a fast bowler) plus my googly is an obsvious off spinner but works some times but depends what type of leg spinner you want to be a big spinning warne or a kumble two different keg spinning styles but both very effective
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: espocrespo on April 04, 2010, 12:12:40 PM
Heh? For a flipper you have to move your thumb around to the back of the ball.... how can you do that by accident!? lol
trust me, i hold the bowl differently lots of times as well, its hard to explain unless you see it
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 04, 2010, 12:13:11 PM
I can do it, but it takes a lot of Dedicated time and effort to bowl it well, it doesn't happen like that. Variation is key to a leggie but, if you aren't already, focus on your stock ball pitching around middle and off. If you can land it there on a good drivable length, thats when variation is at its most useful.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: roco on April 04, 2010, 12:14:21 PM
Some people are just different like that we have a lad that can bowl big spinning doosras but can't bowl an offie just weird
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 04, 2010, 12:15:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RReQEecD0GA

Useful link.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: espocrespo on April 04, 2010, 12:25:35 PM
Some people are just different like that we have a lad that can bowl big spinning doosras but can't bowl an offie just weird

yh i can bowl leg spin googlies, but cannot for the life of me bowl normal off spin
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: espocrespo on April 04, 2010, 12:26:21 PM
yh i can bowl leg spin googlies, but cannot for the life of me bowl normal off spin

where as my brother can and he turns it square, but i mostly get my wickets because people don't know what i'm bowling and half the time nor do i, LOL
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Tumo on April 04, 2010, 12:28:50 PM
I bowl SLA, but I've tried bowling chinaman before, with very varying degrees of success. The flipper is really difficult to bowl well, or at all! I can bowl googlies, toppies, and a very slight-turning leggie. that's about it! I'll stick to real spin cheers...
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Colesy on April 04, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
I've been told to bowl leg-spin because I can turn it alot. I don't have much variation apart from flight and I can bowl a top spinner, googlies are hard lol.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: espocrespo on April 04, 2010, 12:29:36 PM
my leg spin hardly turns at all but my googlies turn very sharply
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 04, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
At the end of the day, Variation is wasted if you cant build up any pressure, and you do this with a succesfuul stock delivery. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 02:36:32 PM
Any clever leggy knows you need to be consistent ect ect ect.... and even tbh lots of the things you guys are saying don't apply sometimes because it depends on the type of Batsman, thats the key to leg spin, bowling smart, the amount of times I get wickets by out smarting the batsman even if the ball didn't do exactly what i wanted... anyways this was more to see who can bowl a flipper, so any more takers? :L
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Colesy on April 04, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
I agree cos first over for the firsts I bowled a leggie first ball and the guy played and missed, next one I bolwed an off-spinner and he left it lol. Bowled off stump.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Apple on April 04, 2010, 10:36:57 PM
Well he must be a pretty bad player tbh
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: ianbuchanan on April 04, 2010, 10:50:26 PM
i've been a leg spinner for all my cricketing life, and still dont even know what a flipper is. i was told by one of somerset's spin coaches a few years ago to bowl 6 leg spinners in an over. however i can and do bowl googlies and topspinners (by accident when the googly doesnt come out properly).

i think the best variation a leggie can use is a quicker ball, because 99% of the time when you bowl one, it wont go for runs, and if it doesnt pick up a wicket it still makes the batsman think a lot more.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Colesy on April 04, 2010, 10:54:04 PM
Well he must be a pretty bad player tbh

True story
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
i've been a leg spinner for all my cricketing life, and still dont even know what a flipper is. i was told by one of somerset's spin coaches a few years ago to bowl 6 leg spinners in an over. however i can and do bowl googlies and topspinners (by accident when the googly doesnt come out properly).

i think the best variation a leggie can use is a quicker ball, because 99% of the time when you bowl one, it wont go for runs, and if it doesnt pick up a wicket it still makes the batsman think a lot more.

Slower ball IMO, gets shed loads of wickets.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Apple on April 04, 2010, 11:41:29 PM
True story

I guess if its early on in ones innings etc.
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Colesy on April 04, 2010, 11:42:20 PM
Well I cam on 5th over and it was this guys 1st and 2nd ball
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: niall1995 on April 04, 2010, 11:45:56 PM
Well I cam on 5th over and it was this guys 1st and 2nd ball

Shouldn't be playing firsts if you can't pick an offie! I can't understand how people can't pick my googlies let along an offie! :L
Title: Re: Flipper
Post by: Colesy on April 04, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
Lol, the guy stood at first slip said he should've picked it lol.