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Title: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 07, 2010, 10:10:13 AM
i am attempting to sstart a new cricket brand but am stuck on a name.

i wont it to be unique so i want i named something like little burdie cricket or cookiez cricket.

i am only just getting under way but should be in the market in around 2012-2014.

i am planning to sell g1+ bats soft goods including keeping gear and helmets.

thanx nick.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: tommo256 on April 07, 2010, 10:24:56 AM
wilgerboom-name
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: mdl_1979 on April 07, 2010, 10:28:02 AM
What do you mean by G1+ bats?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: roco on April 07, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
Will you be making the bats(sorry for all the quetions)

name - witch doctor cricket
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 07, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
JOKE POST.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 08, 2010, 04:22:44 AM
Will you be making the bats(sorry for all the quetions)

name - witch doctor cricket

i will make some,but will hire a pro podshaver to do most of them.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: WALSHY on April 08, 2010, 04:52:20 AM
Good luck with hiring a pro podshaver!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 05:59:04 AM
thanx,i have a few contacts soo it might be a bit easier for me.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 06:25:33 AM
How old are you cb2010???
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 09:10:55 AM
why??
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 09:15:46 AM
Good luck mate I hope it goes well for you I to are looking at getting a few bats made up but no softs planned at all as aa bit of a hobby and only on a very small scale possibly starting with about 10 to 20 bats made up. 
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 09:17:18 AM
Good luck mate I hope it goes well for you I to are looking at getting a few bats made up but no softs planned at all as aa bit of a hobby and only on a very small scale possibly starting with about 10 to 20 bats made up.

thanx mate.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 09:36:19 AM
Everybody is starting a brand, or are they just getting stickers made as I don't see any other input required.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 11:02:20 AM
No brand mike just a bit like you to be honest get the wood then send it to a batmaker       
It will not be big time but I looking at giving value for money and not after Hugh profits. I know what a bat cost and how much either english made or indian made and will only be making around 20 pound a bat     
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Oh I will have imput at every stage bud but as iam not a batmaker nor wish to be
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
And I will tell you my ideas run as a hobby not as a buisness.   
I would offer a valued customer incentive were if you buy a bat and want another there would be a discount on your next bat. No point in spouting it off though till the bats are made and ready to go then I will discuss more.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: SillyShilly on April 09, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Really looking forward to seeing your ideas and brand - is this any time soon?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Mr Cricket on April 09, 2010, 11:40:29 AM
will be a challenge to create interest as there are so many existing quality brands, my suggestion would be to make your ideas cutting edge and different or else i think you will struggle
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 11:41:21 AM
Where you getting wood from?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: peplow on April 09, 2010, 11:42:58 AM
Sounds good mate, not sure it has to be cutting edge, if  its cheaper than much thats around and still at just as high quality you should be fine, look at solitare for instance! And you'll probably be able to do light bats!!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Mr Cricket on April 09, 2010, 11:44:36 AM
yeah, need to offer something different to draw people away from big/better recognised brands
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 12:18:38 PM
Wood will be from Kent and handles fitted and the bats will be pressed and shaped in Yorkshire


Not realy have to get anybody to buy these as I would be in compitition with nobody as it would be a hobby and I sure I could knock out 10-20 bats to just people I play with.    The truth is the price would be the flagship with the quality
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 12:20:14 PM
I expect a lot of stick when the do arrive because of the price undercutting many but it will not be run as a buisness but as I said a hobby
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: SillyShilly on April 09, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
Id imagine selling 10-20 bats cheaply isnt going to cause major headaches for most brands - you dont see them complaining when roger sells handmade grade 1's for £100. Anyway , what designs have you come up with for the stickers or are they going to be sold blank?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Kent, wow, who sells willow in Kent?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
Nno got a designer to do them but think there going to be made in Andover but I know they have a set limit on the number of sets.   
There will be no radical designs in bats design and at the minute have not made my mind up on total custom or just a shape made by my batmaker.    I should be able to produce a couple for inspection in the next 2 months one is going to petehosk to try out.  But like I said it will be very small time and no soft are planned at all.  Maybe in 11 years when I retire at 42 more could be done but not looking at a buisness plan it just I have got so much out of cricket I willing to put something back in. 
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 12:41:49 PM
Mike like I expected I will not be revealing my sources like you I will keep it inhouse but I expected you to ask all this.   Wait and see I expect to be a little unpopular with a few my prices are the best thing but just wait and see
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: roco on April 09, 2010, 12:42:31 PM
look forward to seeing them mate
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
Must be hitting something with the questions asked. 
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: roco on April 09, 2010, 12:46:12 PM
Curiosity the bane of man
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on April 09, 2010, 01:02:10 PM
Curiosity the bane of man
and cats mate...remember it killing at least one!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:03:56 PM
Eg Tom what does that mean.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: alexrickyponting on April 09, 2010, 01:07:26 PM
procricket its an old saying "curiosity killed the cat" it means that inquisitiveness can lead people into dangerous situations, quite what it has to do with cats i dont know :)
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Buzz on April 09, 2010, 01:07:56 PM
Eg Tom what does that mean.


 ;) procricket see... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity_Killed_the_Cat
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 09, 2010, 01:10:51 PM
The whole starting a company idea is very interesting especially in terms of softs, I reckon to achieve a lot you need to undercut competitors or produce radical new ideas, good luck.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
I know the band anyway sorry for hijacking your topic bud And wish you well.   I must say I respect all the sponsors on herer some top kit and I will not be compeating with any of you mine will be run as a hobby.   And  for prices
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 01:24:50 PM
I was merely curious Dave, we've had a whole bunch of kids and crackpots saying they are making a brand over the years. It is very easy for anyone to say it, most members on here would know where to get bats made, softs, made, stickers made etc. You are simply at the back of a very long queue and since I'm already in the business was curious how you claim to be able to buy clefts in Kent when I know for no one supplying clefts in Kent.

Also very strange that you are not having them made by your good and close friend in Hampshire, I'd hope you would show some loyalty to him after all he has done for you. Unless there is no willow merchant in Kent and this is just a joke on your part, in which case you have duped me.....
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: harry kovert on April 09, 2010, 01:26:15 PM
Surely no-one can dupe the Podfather???
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 01:29:43 PM
Happens all the time, mainly on eBay........
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: harry kovert on April 09, 2010, 01:31:23 PM
Shock Horror..I had you down as the Dorset Oracle!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
Mike it will be no brand as such I claim nothing but bats will be made and showing loyalty I do I not after compeating with anybody and the wood will be from Kent well picked up there. Like I have already said it will be very small scale not compeating with anybody. I can tell you I asked 3 people for prices of clefts handled and pressed you being one and at the minute I going with the cheapest
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Well what can I say, I pride myself on knowing the 9 willow merchants in the country and now I find there is a tenth........

I may have to travel to Nepal for a period of reflection......
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 01:35:44 PM
Handled and Pressed, right, now I see, then I know who that is and you are not actually buying willow, buying a part made.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:36:48 PM
It something I want my young son to enjoy mate he is showing a real interest in cricket and kit.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:42:13 PM
Es mate I do not have the budget to buy a load from wrights or a maker like I said a hobby.   I have done a bit of research and most do not realy care where it was pressed and handled.   All itrying to do is put a top end bat out there at a price is right and there will be no big time sales or anything just me and my son following a hobby. Got to do something to while away my spare time and it will be good and fun and I will take pride in them.   
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 09, 2010, 01:46:05 PM
Es mate I do not have the budget to buy a load from wrights or a maker like I said a hobby.   I have done a bit of research and most do not realy care where it was pressed and handled.   All itrying to do is put a top end bat out there at a price is right and there will be no big time sales or anything just me and my son following a hobby. Got to do something to while away my spare time and it will be good and fun and I will take pride in them.   

If you don't care where the bat is pressed and handled then you will never have a top end bat, pressing is the most important factor in a bat's construction.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
Yes but I do know were it being pressed and I know it is going to be top class just hope my batmaker can do it justice but he has been making top bats for quite a long time.  As I have said wait till petehosk gets a sample it will not be selected as the best just a random selection and I sure you will get a go with it.   No point in talking about pressing I know it will be pressed between 1 to 3 times between 1400lb and 1900 lb per square inch
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on April 09, 2010, 02:36:00 PM
out of interest why is Mr Hosk testing it?

Is he deemed as the neutral tester on the forum and voice of reason on everything willow? If so he'll be getting bombarded with kit instead of wisden/AOC lol
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: roco on April 09, 2010, 02:37:54 PM
Well he has enough willow to compare it too
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 02:44:37 PM
I gave him my word he could test it but hopefully will have it for a forum net but it will not be for a couple of months. 
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Howzat on April 09, 2010, 02:45:11 PM
I hear the hosk is sunning himself in Portugal at the mo!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on April 09, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
Alright for sum in sunning myself on the balcony ;) people watching those in town with the IPL
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: kenbriooo on April 09, 2010, 07:37:49 PM
Cricketboy2010 are you the cricketboy of CSF who was asking if you could have grips made? You are ver ambitious for a 13 year old, if only the kids I teach knew what they wanted to do already in their lives
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
yer thats me i dont go on csf anymore cus most of those guys are d heads,  right back to the subject....

i have come up with an idea of an environmentally freindly series called the enviro, the bat  is going to just be normal ew but all the softs are going to be made out of a recycled rubber,which is going to be heated at high tempreaters and moulded.

atm this is only an idea but we think it could boom in the cricket market,... pls tell me wat u think.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: SillyShilly on April 09, 2010, 09:02:02 PM
all rubber softs - are you joking? I dont know much about the possibilities involved with recycled rubber, so i find this hard to believe  - perhaps you can tell us more :)
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Howzat on April 09, 2010, 09:02:39 PM
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Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 09:03:34 PM
??
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 09:11:37 PM
all rubber softs - are you joking? I dont know much about the possibilities involved with recycled rubber, so i find this hard to believe  - perhaps you can tell us more :)

well , rubber softs are more flexeble so they mould to your hand quiker and rubber is a bit sticky so u will get a better grip on the bat. btw this wont be the normal rubber u see everyday, its looks more like leather but alot glossier,

feedback would be much appreiceated.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
Hi can confirm I take my fist shipments of bats early may but stickers will not be ready till mid may early June pictures of the bats will be up on the forum.  Glad about this post has made me sort them out a little quicker. Selecting the wood in 2 weeks and will be totaly handmade in England. The first batch will be in my designed shape there after customised ones can be made.   Dave.  The hobby name will be announced soon
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: kenbriooo on April 09, 2010, 09:27:56 PM
yer thats me i dont go on csf anymore cus most of those guys are d heads,  right back to the subject....

i have come up with an idea of an environmentally freindly series called the enviro, the bat  is going to just be normal ew but all the softs are going to be made out of a recycled rubber,which is going to be heated at high tempreaters and moulded.

atm this is only an idea but we think it could boom in the cricket market,... pls tell me wat u think.

you were on there today making comments, maybe you should go back?! Seems to me that you are clearly very ambitious but need to wait till you grow up and have a better understanding of the way things work.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: roco on April 09, 2010, 09:30:25 PM
so dave will this mystery shape be one that you like or based on one you use and think is appropiate
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 09, 2010, 09:35:55 PM
you were on there today making comments, maybe you should go back?! Seems to me that you are clearly very ambitious but need to wait till you grow up and have a better understanding of the way things work.

i have other people helping me to start up the company... soo its not just me.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: kenbriooo on April 09, 2010, 09:39:10 PM
So who else would be helping out? You are a very unique 13 year old if you able to get starting with your very own cricket company. So who is helping out mum and dad?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
so dave will this mystery shape be one that you like or based on one you use and think is appropiate

the shape will be a mixture of my 2 favourite nothing outstandingly different might get a magnum shape thrown in there if I can get a sample
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 09, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
yer thats me i dont go on csf anymore cus most of those guys are d heads,  right back to the subject....

i have come up with an idea of an environmentally freindly series called the enviro, the bat  is going to just be normal ew but all the softs are going to be made out of a recycled rubber,which is going to be heated at high tempreaters and moulded.

atm this is only an idea but we think it could boom in the cricket market,... pls tell me wat u think.
How old are you again?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niall1995 on April 09, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
How old are you again?

Oh the experienced old age of 13... think he breaks Walshy's record? Can you confirm?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: procricket on April 09, 2010, 09:55:17 PM
I have made a new topic roco or anybody else discussing my future hobby
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 10, 2010, 03:33:21 AM
Oh the experienced old age of 13... think he breaks Walshy's record? Can you confirm?

LOL :)
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 10, 2010, 03:34:20 AM
my dad and a few mates are helping out
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: kenbriooo on April 10, 2010, 07:59:57 AM
my dad and a few mates are helping out


call me synical but I doubt a 13 year old is gonna make many waves in the cricket world, either that or you are hanging on the coat tails if your Dads idea.

And yes he is 13, here is the link to that other forum that he doesn't use!
http://www.cricketsupplies.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19832
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 10, 2010, 08:36:59 AM
i ment to say i am not going to use it much now,but i was to tired to say it last night.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niall1995 on April 10, 2010, 08:54:53 AM
i ment to say i am not going to use it much now,but i was to tired to say it last night.

Too tired to type, I don't know how you'll get along with that late working hours of the business.....
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: kenbriooo on April 10, 2010, 09:10:09 AM
i ment to say i am not going to use it much now,but i was to tired to say it last night.

presume that's aimed at me for stating that you were on CSF when you said you don't use it?!? If so you are the one that said you don't use it; you said that yesterday morning at 8:53! Not last night and I'd be surprised if you were tired then. Well unless you had been up all night fantasising about what rubbish you were going to spout next
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 10, 2010, 09:50:23 AM
i live in australia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: norbs on April 10, 2010, 10:19:16 AM
Start slowly and try and source stuff locally, ie. dont ask for stickers in the UK when you can get them made in Oz, find somewhere there.   

It isn't easy, the internet is fine for selling but be aware that if you to have ask questions about products and the whys and therefores on cricket equipment and you are selling stuff yourself you aren't really ready to sell to people as you are still learning yourself and people buying from you may have more knowledge about it then you have.  You need to be equal of above to meets those customers needs.

Dont try and take on the world or push out stuff you are nervous about and will need to email people about every other day to find out how it is going. Research quietly, learn all you need to, sell locally and build up a reputation and the brand slowly if you are really interested in doing it long term. Get comfortable with seeing your stuff being used and people using it, build up a reputation there and then if you are happy and players are happy and word of mouth is working locally, expand out.

I've seen, answered and watched a few people startup with little or no knowledge it is both amusing and scary.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 10, 2010, 10:18:55 PM
thanx norbs :-[
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Colesy on April 11, 2010, 01:12:56 AM
call me synical but I doubt a 13 year old is gonna make many waves in the cricket world, either that or you are hanging on the coat tails if your Dads idea.

And yes he is 13, here is the link to that other forum that he doesn't use!
[url]http://www.cricketsupplies.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19832[/url]




Let's not write him off :)

Tom was young when he started and look where he is now :)
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on April 12, 2010, 01:35:02 AM

Let's not write him off :)

Tom was young when he started and look where he is now :)

exactly!!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 12, 2010, 08:25:24 AM
What did Tom start at 13?????
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: SillyShilly on April 12, 2010, 08:31:09 AM
Puberty?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 12, 2010, 08:35:36 AM
Thought Tom set up Itias at 17, but had been making bats since 13?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Talisman on April 12, 2010, 08:45:02 AM
I'm pretty sure that you are wrong there, I don't think Tom has ever claimed to be a bat maker, maybe just a case of the magazine feature playing up his involvement with Fusion et al. He set up his own brand at 17, that part is right.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: niceonechoppy on April 12, 2010, 08:47:46 AM
Oh ok, so does he actually make bats or just handle the background stuff?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: jandgcricket on April 12, 2010, 08:59:44 AM
I'm pretty sure that you are wrong there, I don't think Tom has ever claimed to be a bat maker, maybe just a case of the magazine feature playing up his involvement with Fusion et al. He set up his own brand at 17, that part is right.
Wrong, Tom claimed he was the youngest bat maker in the world.  I do believe on his website, I think he made a couple of bats but never really got anywhere, it was just a marketing ploy.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Tom on April 12, 2010, 09:02:04 AM
I did a few bats in India, finished a bit at Fusion then a few at home. Was never anything major and the magazine talked it up a little more than I would have liked! Although I set out to do it with good intention, I soon realised that I wasn't all that fun and that I could source bats for only a tenner more than I was paying for part-mades. I still 'made' a few for mates and the like though.

Never have claimed to be the youngest in the world though as I'm sure there's some 4yr olds carving out bats on the streets of Mumbai and J&K.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: jandgcricket on April 12, 2010, 09:07:37 AM
youngest in the UK then Tom?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: SillyShilly on April 12, 2010, 09:10:25 AM
Doubt it - i believe jon newberys apprentices started at a young age, probably 16 or so. Lots of young lads straight out of school would have gone to work as batmakers in the factories 20/30 years ago, it's more unusual nowadays though.
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Rowan on June 24, 2013, 10:34:25 AM
Did either of these brands end up becoming reality?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: cricketboy2010 on June 30, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
Sure did mate. We have come along way since this post first started! I was a bit young and to ambitious back then though  :-[
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on June 30, 2013, 10:22:03 AM
Good on ya CB, keep up the good work mate!
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: dingbatsports on June 30, 2013, 10:36:46 AM
I just recently turned 20, and have been repairing by myself since I was 15, and making since 17. :D
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Rowan on July 03, 2013, 01:23:36 PM
Sure did mate. We have come along way since this post first started! I was a bit young and to ambitious back then though  :-[
Could you post some pictures mate?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Viper Cricket on July 03, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
Sure did mate. We have come along way since this post first started! I was a bit young and to ambitious back then though  :-[

what brand is yours?
Title: Re: starting a new cricket brand
Post by: Rowan on July 07, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
Gday Boller it's Donohue ;)