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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Ayrtek Cricket => Topic started by: tim2000s on February 01, 2011, 10:18:31 AM
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There has been a fair amount of discussion within the forum about grill positions on various helmets, so I've taken a few pictures to explain the big headed ogre problem that some of us have encountered.
My head size is 620mm around the headband and from middle of head between the ears to chin is 380mm.
I have a Masuri 610-630 helmet and an Ayrtek. Both have steel grills. I have only tested manufacturers grill on their own helmet. I will test all grills on the Ayrtek and Masuri helmets when I have the Albion grill. My requirement was to have the grill as far away from the face as possible, hence the screw positions visible. The pictures show the results.
Ayrtek Helmet, Ayrtek Grill
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/GrillPositions01.jpg)
The grill is all but resting on my chin and doesn't drop down far enough to cover my chin. If I was hit by a bouncer, the grill would transfer most of the energy directly into my jaw! I couldn't use it like this.
Masuri Helmt, Masuri Grill
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/GrillPositions02.jpg)
The grill is a distance away from my chin, about 10mm, maybe slightly less, and positioned lower. In order to achieve this, I have to have the aperture between top of the grill and peak at 60mm. This is not ideal as I wouldn't want the ball squeezing its way through.
I would prefer to use the Ayrtek grill due to its simple way of maintaining a 55mm gap between peak and grill, however to do this, I think Ayrtek probably need to make a grill for the slightly larger gents amongst us. I'm not sure if there are plans to do this. I think that all it would take is an extra 20mm of length on the longer strut, and maybe a minor angle adjustment of about 2 degrees to take the edge of the grill lower. I don't know how likely this is.
I'll update the thread with Albion and Masuri grills on the Ayrtek once I have the Albion grill.
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Ive got a massive head too mate, its a pain!
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The Albion will be alot further away mate as I have the same problem
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i have the issue of the grill not covering my chin(s) also and some times the grill touches my chin and drives me mad lol
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Which one you using
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if required we can drill the grille holes in the shell further forward if the customer wanted this
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Or just have sympathy for the more robust gentlemen were not all little people like you lot lol
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Good suggestion Tim, though this doesn't apply to myself, I can see the concerns you have... :) - My grille is miles away from my chin, I think...I oughta check tonight in the nets lol :|
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I think this is really good info actually. A couple of team mates have the same issue. One just got his dad to weld a plate onto the back of the earplate with more holes and other got other grilles.
Tom do an Albion style grille! ;)
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Or buy a few Albion grilles to sell on to those that would require them I guess...though I reckon making your own grille is cheaper..
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as a pointer Tim u shud actually have the chin cup on your chin when wearing our helmet to achieve maximum benefit from the 4 point strapping system :)
not sure if this will effect the angle of the grille or not but will aid in a better fit
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as a pointer Tim u shud actually have the chin cup on your chin when wearing our helmet to achieve maximum benefit from the 4 point strapping system :)
not sure if this will effect the angle of the grille or not but will aid in a better fit
Fair enough, but then the bottom of the grill doesn't cover my chin (to be fair, not sure whether it is supposed to ??? )and the gap between the bottom and the front of my chin is still a couple of mm maximum! Big head I guess.
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/IMG_0433.jpg)
Hmm. I look a bit like a chipmunk in this pic.
Had a quick look at the Keith Barker video on You Tube. Looks as though he was using a Masuri grill?
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The grille looks like an ayrtek one to me tim, just deceptively seems like a masuri due to the labelling, though I think Tom can confirm... ???
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Look near the mounting plates they're different. Deff Ayrtek grille
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Joe have you got a Ti22 grille on your Ayrtek..? I seem to recall you did, any particular reason why out of interest..?
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Keith was wearing the 2010 grille we fitted the Warwickshire lads out with..these had the square mounting plates on them which gave more options for settings in terms of distance between peak and grille which we decided wasnt the best option to have as could lead to unsafe settings being applied....the actual helmet is sat in the office now on the shelf still
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Yes mate I do (with lots of tape due to a couple of bars snapping). I have an Albion grille as I used an Albion lid for about 4 years prior to getting an Ayrtek and it was the only helmet I used so I was accustomed to the view, if you like. Plus imo it looks nicer ;)
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Ahh thought so Joe...still, my Ayrtek grille is great though :) - personal preference I guess.. :D
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I am approaching the conclusion that helmets are not made for those of us who are outside the 98th percentile of population.
I have put the Albion grill on to the Ayrtek helmet, and while it fits great, and no longer risks my chin, i am left in the unenviable position of having a 7cm gap. Far too large and one through which a cricket ball moving at any speed is likely to pass rather easily.
What do I do? I'd like to use the Ayrtek helmet, but with the various grill combinations, it doesn't really work. Ideally I'd have a slightly larger Ayrtek grill.
The others of you with big heads, how big is your albion grill gap? What do you think about it?
The thing for me is that the way the Ayrtek is designed it's clearly going to take any impact around the peak much better than the Masuri, and I really want to use it. I'm open to any other suggestions as to how i might fix this!
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just a bump my lid is pissing me off it doesnt cover my 4 chins lol what are my options
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just a bumb my lid is pissing me off it doesnt cover my 4 chins lol what are my options
Your option is to purchase the Albion ti22 grille, I have done this and it fits over my chin fine now,
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Join the big headed revolution
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have a new style of grille being sampled shortly to cater for u big eds! ;)
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good stuff! everything about is decent dont think it helps that ive removed the chin strap off and just have the cloth under my chin lol
feels more comftable that way for me just means the grill touches my chin some times and i dont think it covers it all
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have a new style of grille being sampled shortly to cater for u big eds! ;)
Great! I am offering my services of being a Guinea Pig for you!
good stuff! everything about is decent dont think it helps that ive removed the chin strap off and just have the cloth under my chin lol
feels more comftable that way for me just means the grill touches my chin some times and i dont think it covers it all
Ah, you big head.... Know the problem though... ??? :-[
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will hold off untill tom gets these new grills sorted :D
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Will an albion grill fit on an ayrtek?
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Will an albion grill fit on an ayrtek?
Yes but you get a 70 mm gap through which the ball fits.
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FYI we have 2 new grille samples on the way here for next week to solve this problem :)
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Oooooooo I'm intrigued
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Who will be the big headed testers hopefully loyal customers ;)
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Who will be the big headed testers hopefully loyal customers ;)
I think ayrtek should use this as an opportunity to reign in new customers, he's already got your money ;)
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He's already got most of my money just give him blank cheques now a days
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will get the lads to give it a try as got two versions coming of the amended design to cater for u larger bonced boys!
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New updated grills are due in on the 31st May according to Fed-Ex tracking :) Simmy currently has the sample that we had to trial, hopefully its moved the bar further away from the chin so its able to fit a wider scope of people.
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yeah doesnt touch my chin anymore so job done :D
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jobs a good un :)
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I might buy one off you as the one I have is about 5mm from my chin
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Brilliant, let me know when you want payment and how much!
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will do mate, once iv got them in hand ill give u a shout
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Grills have arrived :)
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Couldnt have timed me getting paid better. I get a nice cheque this morning and now a nice shiny grille appears in front of me
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Grills have arrived :)
Nice!
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Pictureees :)
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They are the same as before Joe expect with a bigger angle on the bottom bar
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Awwwww
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yeah doesnt touch my chin anymore so job done :D
dont you mean chins Simmy?? :D
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Excellent! Can't wait. Looking forward to making mine usable!
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they are a bit shiny tho comparred to the last ones ;)
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Got my new big bu**er grill and attached it to my ACIS Premier. I am now very happy. It means the helmet fits and I can use it!!! Pictures below. Well done guys! Masuri 61-63cm in Navy Blue with Steel Grill now up for sale!!!
New Grill
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/2011-06-08191217.jpg)
Old Grill
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/IMG_0433.jpg)
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Timbo...glad the amendments catered for your needs mate.....just goes to show that if you ask sometimes you do get ;)
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Loving the Ayrtek address....
Hollywood Tower Mansion! Makes it sound very swish.
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Hi - with this lid the grille doesn't cover your ear - is that just the way you have set the grille up or standard (in both before and after pics...)
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Hi - with this lid the grille doesn't cover your ear - is that just the way you have set the grille up or standard (in both before and after pics...)
Same as on the Masuri. The issue is that the horizontal distance from ear to chin is such that I need to put the grill on the farthest forward rear hole to avoid anything hitting the grill impacting on to my chin. I'll probably have a bit of a play with the positioning, but unfortunately got a big head.
The other aspect of this is that when ducking into a ball, to make sure I don't do it ear first!