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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: langer17 on February 10, 2011, 05:29:50 PM
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Who would you say is the most unlucky players in the world. It can be that they only play County, Sheffield Shield etc, when they should easily be playing international.
I'm going to say Brad Hodge from Victoria/Australia.
- Averages 54 in tests with a last innings of 204 (He was dropped after his 204 and to this day I have nod Idea why he was dropped).
- Was told by Cricket Australia that he needed to have 1000+ Sheffield Shield summers, he has done this numerous times and still no call up.
- Has easily been the bet one day batsmen in the Australian domestic comp, most recently he was left out of Australia's World Cup squad even though he has scored 498 runs from 9 innings with 3 Hundreds with a high score of 140* and 1 fifty, at an average of 71.14. Almost 100 runs better than the next bloke and easily the best average.
I have no idea why Cricket Australia refuses to pick him as he has clearly been the best Shield batsmen for the last 4-5 years. He is by far the best one day domestic player and has been for 5-6 years including this year, and for some messed up unknown reason, he never bloody get's picked. No wonder we have been going crap in test matches when we just call in players then drop them, Hodge would have easily been able to save alot of trouble as he would have had the number 4 position locked in.
I bring this up as I don't know why Callum Ferguson is back in the team, one innings of 40 and now he is good enough. I mean c'mon, Hodge is by far and away the most talented and unluckiest person in international cricket today as he has proven that he is good enough, but bloody Cricket Australia live in a land where you don't pick the best, but instead pick a line of average players that you think will improve. Time to pick players who are proven and in form and stop caring about reputation as it only ends up hurting the team.
Had my rant, now let me know what you guys think on who you think the unluckiest player in the world is.
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Michael di Venuto - not one single Test match cap.
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Stuart Law
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he is my all time number 1 player had a excerllant Lancashire league record and Bolton League
Looked after us when rocked up ro Melbourne 2008 a outstanding man
apparently he and Ponting did not get on maybe Ponting was worried
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I would have said Stuart McGill. Awfully unlucky to be in the same era as Warne. I think I was reading an article about him the other day on cricinfo.
I remember wearing out my tape of the 98/99 Ashes series when Warne sat out most of the series due to injury/ban (can't remember) Had the best wrongun going
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Simon Jones, great talent genuine mid 90's fast bowler on his day, shame about all the injuries.
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good shout Leo was a world beater on his day
Macgill another good shout bloody hell you could have a unlucky 11 here
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Unlucky World XI
1) Stuart Law
2) Brad Hodge
3) Michael di Venuto
4) Stuart McGill
5) Simon Jones
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Barry Richards, Mike Proctor et al who pretty much missed out on international careers that could have sent them into the record books must be in with a shout.
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Jamie Siddons must be another aussie who would have played a heap of international cricket for any other country or at any other time.
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Could say Heath Streak, Andy Flower and Henry Olonga, three very talented players who never got to fullfil their potential due to the country's politics.
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To a degree, I think Tresco was unlucky to be struck down with such a life altering condition. One of my favourite players and an absolute hero in my book. For a bloke who refuses to move his feet, he's class ;)
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Trescothick- arguably our finest opener in Tests in the past decade. Consistently top run machine in county cricket, Shame about the illnesses otherwise he possibly could have been a modern great of English cricket.
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Graham pollock did not get the chance really but was rated as the worlds best at the time but feel for law the Aussies missed out on a real talent plus magill is up there just due to fact to have the greatest as first choice is just one of those things ha
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Saqlain Mushtaq and Mushie IMO
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Queensland had a few during the 90's and early 2000's - as mentioned Stuart Law, but also Martin Love. Love made over 10000 Shield runs for Queensland.
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Surely Ramps must cosider himself unlucky. If The England selectors would have given him a few more tests then he may have had the opportunity to show his country the batsman he is come to be today.
I know he has snubbed England over the last few years but can you blame him?
Before Trotty showed up, the number 3 position was very much up for grabs.
Ramprakash was scoring hundreds for fun at Englands best ground for results so why wasn't he picked to at least bat at the Oval?
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I don't think you can call a guy who played 52 Tests and only averaged 27 unlucky. If anything you would have to say he was pretty lucky to play as much as he did.
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I agree to a certain extent that he was given a chance in the early days but was surely overlooked in the twilight ( peak ) of his career.
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Chris Rogers, great bloke and player deserves much more than a single cap
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Simon Jones. Would have been such a good player if not for all those injuries.
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1.Simon Jones-Injuries etc.
2.Brad Hodge- As explained in original post
3.Stuart Magill- Shane Warne
4.Jeetan Patel- Playing in same era as Daniel Vettori
5.Matthew Bulbeck- Guy who used to coach a bit at our club, had a great start to his first class career at Somerset when he was 19. Badly injured his shoulder and was forced to retire- http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/9290.html
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1.Simon Jones-Injuries etc.
2.Brad Hodge- As explained in original post
3.Stuart Magill- Shane Warne
4.Jeetan Patel- Playing in same era as Daniel Vettori
5.Matthew Bulbeck- Guy who used to coach a bit at our club, had a great start to his first class career at Somerset when he was 19. Badly injured his shoulder and was forced to retire- [url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/9290.html[/url]
Agree with 3 of them, cannot comment on your former coach, but Jeetan Patel cannot hold a candle to Dan the man! He averages 40+ with the ball in domestic cricket, and he doesn't have the canniness that Vettori does!
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Dean Headley - has to be!
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1) Stuart Law
2) Simon Jones
3) Andrew Flintoff
4) Neil Harvey Fairbrother
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its not unluckiest but by far the luckiest is Luke Wright - how england keep picking him i dont know purely and simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!
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I feel sorry for Samit Patel, he's definitely a great cricketer, shame about his physique.
Definitely feel sorry for Simon Jones, injury after injury after injury...
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I feel sorry for Samit Patel, he's definitely a great cricketer, shame about his physique.
Definitely feel sorry for Simon Jones, injury after injury after injury...
How on earth can you feel sorry for Samit Patel? He's been given chance after chance by England to lose weight and get back in the side but he has clearly made no effort in the slightest to comply with England's request. An absolute idiot if you ask me! With his talent he should be in the team but is far too lazy.
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Why should weight matter though? If your a quality cricketer then you are surely coping with that? Look at Inzy did he ever get much stick for being crap?
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depends what makes them unlucky. is it having an injury or just not been given the chance to represent their country ?
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Syd Lawerence
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Agree with 3 of them, cannot comment on your former coach, but Jeetan Patel cannot hold a candle to Dan the man! He averages 40+ with the ball in domestic cricket, and he doesn't have the canniness that Vettori does!
Good point about Vettorri! Great bowler, but I reckon at the moment Jeetan Patel would be the frontline spinner for most Countries in world cricket, bar England, NZ, India and Sri Lanka....
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Good point about Vettorri! Great bowler, but I reckon at the moment Jeetan Patel would be the frontline spinner for most Countries in world cricket, bar England, NZ, India and Sri Lanka....
Well, I'd have Hauritz and O'Keefe over him from Aus, Tahir, van de Merwe, and then a few other spinners in SA like Dale Deeb and Shaun von Berg, and Pakistan... Well I have no idea what goes on over there. They'd probably take someone like Jeetan right now! Jeetan is definitely talented enough to be in or around a good chunk of the test+ODI squads right now!
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Stuart Law IMO. Last innings for Aus of 50 yet got dropped for Steve Waugh coming back from injury. Don't drop someone if you score fifty. Just like dropping someone after scoring a goal in footy! Waugh is class but can't replace someone scoring 50
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KP has to be the luckiest. How can the England selectors justify keeping him in the team after his recent form???
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Because he is exactly the sort of player who can turn/win games for you. I think the 227 during the ashes shows just how important he is to England! He wasn't in the greatest form and he still went out and hit a double hundred, admittedly against a mediocre attack. The Aussies would have loved to have KP in their team, and wouldn't have dropped him after a run of bad scores. Remember form is temporary, class is permanent!
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Has anyone said Jason Gillespie?! 200 and dropped? Never played again.....!
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How many Test wickets did he get?
Hardly unlucky since he hadn't moved a ball off the straight in about 18 months...
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David Hussey? Averages 50+ in FC cricket yet not recognised?
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Brad hodge is massively up there. Maybe Keith piper too? Maybe the best gloveman of recent times...
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Piper got banned for smoking some pot pourri didn't he? Got the nails out for his own coffin.
A.M. Smith got shafted by Atherton in his only Test and never played an ODI despite being a part of Gloucestershire's best one day team ever, though I suppose that was with Jack Russell up to the stumps, and Alec Stewart would never have done that.
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Harold Larwood.....Vilified for carrying out orders from his skipper!
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Because he is exactly the sort of player who can turn/win games for you. I think the 227 during the ashes shows just how important he is to England! He wasn't in the greatest form and he still went out and hit a double hundred, admittedly against a mediocre attack. The Aussies would have loved to have KP in their team, and wouldn't have dropped him after a run of bad scores. Remember form is temporary, class is permanent!
But we're coming up to the World Cup which is limited overs the last time I checked. He hasn't scored 1 hundred in the last 2 years of one day cricket. Stats speak for themselves.....
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do you wanna have a bet he will get one in some way in the world cup
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Has anyone said Jason Gillespie?! 200 and dropped? Never played again.....!
Good shout! So harsh on him. Top innings that was haha :) - he didn't even get out did he? ???
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But we're coming up to the World Cup which is limited overs the last time I checked. He hasn't scored 1 hundred in the last 2 years of one day cricket. Stats speak for themselves.....
True, but the Aussies have dropped their best batsman for the World cup.... so that makes even less sense as Mike Hussey looks like the only Aussie able to be a world beater at the moment. True Shaun Marsh got 100+ against England, but he didnt back it up at all. I dont think a massive change in our team right now would improve it, because of the squad their is not really anyone to replace him.
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Yeah I see what you mean mate but he's only there on his name but there's noone at the minute to replace him like you said. I think he should've been dropped a while ago.
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Too be honest he did get dropped for the one-dayers last year! Went to play for Surry for a bit and was very poor. But I think the selectors have made the right decision until someone like James Taylor has matured!
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One of the most unlucky players is ever has to be S Badrinath. A run scoring machine for Tamil Nadu for the past 5-6 years, often topping the run charts and averages. A F/C average of 62 plus 27 hundreds mean the guy can play a bit.
Badrinath even topped the averages and run charts when his TN side where pretty weak. Only in recent times has he batted with guys like M Vijay and Mukund
Strangely this isn't good enough for the Indian selectors as jokers like Yuvraj and Raina have played more Tests than Badri.
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Dheeraj Jadhav has been unlucky as well Jeet
Glen Chapple has been very unlucky never to have played test cricket
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Does Badri come from a lower social strata or something?
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Does Badri come from a lower social strata or something?
Lacks the playboy style of Yuvi and MUST play the short ball better than Raina....
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ME - if it wasn't for women, beer and food!!!
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ME - if it wasn't for women, beer and food!!!
Gold!
Likewise, sometimes wonder how I would have gone if English, not because it would have been any easier but because I don't like or go too well in the extreme heat, which is a bit of a necessity when you live in Perth!