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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2023, 05:24:49 PM »

Not saying mine's an expert view but a lot is made of pressing, as with other aspects of crickets bats and imo these things become almost 'mythical'. If you listened to some batmakers then you wouldn't buy a bat from anyone who haven't been pressing 20 off years (even tho they too once hadn't pressed a bat). It's like no relatively new batmaker could ever produce a bat as good.

 In my opinion if you've played the game and know how a bat should feel, then you press until you reach that point. Whether that's in a one stage press or ten stage, you're getting the right outcome. If it doesn't feel right for wherever reason, then you decide as a brand if you're happy that it leaves the workshop.

I'm not sure I buy the soft press, hard press thing really. Surely every bat needs to be pressed to ensure it performs? Yes you can obviously press them more, but underpressed (softer) wouldn't increase performance surely? The handles can make a difference to the feel too imo, as Soulman mentioned. Thicker and better quality handles to me feel stiffer, but the bat will still perform yet open up in time and not be as prone to causing issues early. Just my opinion based on what I've used, seen and repaired.

The other factor I'd like to test is how the moisture content affects it and if drier willow presses/performs differently. Just need to sort a few bits before experimenting.

Couldn’t agree more 90 per cent of bats are the same I guess you buy from people you like and trust….

We could go down the loosening of the handle techniques and then the oven baked press bake bean style!!! But that’s crazy for another day.
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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2023, 05:41:31 PM »

The other factor I'd like to test is how the moisture content affects it and if drier willow presses/performs differently. Just need to sort a few bits before experimenting.


Little that beats a forum experiment, DEAL ME IN!
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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2023, 06:32:26 PM »


Little that beats a forum experiment, DEAL ME IN!

Just need a £400 moisture metre, a kiln and the time mate! 🤔
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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2023, 06:48:49 PM »

Just need a £400 moisture metre, a kiln and the time mate! 🤔
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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2023, 07:03:49 PM »

Borrow one, I provide one, and stop replying to jokers on WhatsApp 😁

I have just what’s Appel him  what you implying David…..
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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2023, 08:09:55 PM »

I have just what’s Appel him  what you implying David…..

 I think he was talking about himself tbh mate, but if the cap fits! 😂
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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2023, 01:06:50 AM »

Great thread... Soooo many questions. First one, @LEACHY48 please:

In your experience, does pressing highlight potential for storm damage in the willow?

I wouldn't say it highlights storm damage, perhaps storm damaged clefts are more likely to suffer pressing damage, but I can't say I've had much storm damaged will to test my theory to be honest. Our supplier are excellent with regards to sending us high quality wood.
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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2023, 01:08:06 AM »

Not saying mine's an expert view but a lot is made of pressing, as with other aspects of crickets bats and imo these things become almost 'mythical'. If you listened to some batmakers then you wouldn't buy a bat from anyone who haven't been pressing 20 off years (even tho they too once hadn't pressed a bat). It's like no relatively new batmaker could ever produce a bat as good.

 In my opinion if you've played the game and know how a bat should feel, then you press until you reach that point. Whether that's in a one stage press or ten stage, you're getting the right outcome. If it doesn't feel right for wherever reason, then you decide as a brand if you're happy that it leaves the workshop.

I'm not sure I buy the soft press, hard press thing really. Surely every bat needs to be pressed to ensure it performs? Yes you can obviously press them more, but underpressed (softer) wouldn't increase performance surely? The handles can make a difference to the feel too imo, as Soulman mentioned. Thicker and better quality handles to me feel stiffer, but the bat will still perform yet open up in time and not be as prone to causing issues early. Just my opinion based on what I've used, seen and repaired.

The other factor I'd like to test is how the moisture content affects it and if drier willow presses/performs differently. Just need to sort a few bits before experimenting.

Very true mate. As controversial a figure he is, Aldred has it right when he says "press to feel".
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Re: A (de)Pressing Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2023, 01:10:24 AM »

When i was chatting to a batmaker last year about buying a knocking in machine, he said i was better off buying a press and set it up to finish the bat off than using a knocking in machine. I presume this is what keeley do. Also i think there is a retailer in aus that does a press as to finish a bat off


As an owner of both, I personally would never ever send a bat out straight off the press as "ready to play" I am yet to come across any bat from and brand that I would take straight into a game personally.

I'm sure somewhere there is a topic on knocking Vs pressing, and why one is superior in terms of preparation.

Found it: http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33857.msg533580#msg533580
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