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Talisman

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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2011, 06:05:38 PM »
Heartwood is more brittle, not harder.
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2011, 06:07:20 PM »
There no known evidence that heartwood increases performance

(No Swearing Please) i need to leave the forum my mind is working over time to much time reading about willow and stuff.

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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2011, 06:07:40 PM »
Ah right. Thanks mike
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2011, 06:09:32 PM »
And are we saying that tight grains is a 100 per cent fool proof way of judging a way a bat will play
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2011, 06:12:14 PM »
Quote from: Talisman on April 08, 2011, 05:42:50 PM
Leo are you a grumpy old man in secret???
Just that it reminds me of a kashmir part made that I had... 25 grains 3/4 heartwood!
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2011, 06:20:29 PM »
8-13, no heartwood, if there is any then it should be a small strip on outer edge (preferably)
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2011, 06:26:29 PM »
Quote from: procricket on April 08, 2011, 06:09:32 PM
And are we saying that tight grains is a 100 per cent fool proof way of judging a way a bat will play

No, it is not 100% but it is a very good indicator if all the other aspects are equal, it can be pressed wrong just like 6 grains so as long as you get more components done well you increase the chances of a great bat.

One thing worth bearing in mind when someone who sells bats for a living tells you that "x" is the best number of grains is that "x" is almost certainly what they will have lots of in their workshop. If I had 1000 clefts with 8/9 grains and 1000 with 20+ grains I know which would be sought after. The trouble is that market pressure on the growers leads to them planting where the tree will grow fastest and give them a greater yield and thus profit. I would think most trees these days are harvested in 15 years and so 7 grains is going to be standard numbers wise.
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2011, 06:34:11 PM »
has to be around 8-9 grains with a nice butterfly stain near the toe :D
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2011, 06:37:12 PM »
You and your butterfly stains
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2011, 06:42:15 PM »
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2011, 07:41:45 PM »
9 is what i like and never found any more gives a better performance than my bats with 9, lots of stuff regarding this and in my opinion no evidence bats with more grains will play any better than a bat with a few less. Ive had some bats with 15 grains and more but they haven't been any better than bats with 8 or 9.
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2011, 07:43:24 PM »
Quote from: Watsontotty on April 08, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
9 is what i like and never found any more gives a better performance than my bats with 9, lots of stuff regarding this and in my opinion no evidence bats with more grains will play any better than a bat with a few less. Ive had some bats with 15 grains and more but they haven't been any better than bats with 8 or 9.

Rich i agree 100 per cent
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2011, 08:03:53 PM »
Ahh but you 2 haven't spent £300k like others have.... they found direct correlation between grains and performance.
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2011, 08:05:01 PM »
Oh mike i have mate i had a 29 grain beast performance was good but not the best i have had.

Funny if they were the best why do not most pro not  use 25 grain bats

I have had 4 bats in my life all over 20 grains one was a peach the other 3 were good nothing special

And 2 of them were pressed at the best place according to most people
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Re: Prettiest number of grains
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2011, 08:19:08 PM »
Quote from: Talisman on April 08, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
Ahh but you 2 haven't spent £300k like others have.... they found direct correlation between grains and performance.

Fortunately many makers would disagree with your comments Mike and they have spent a fair bit more than 300k, some will agree with you while others disagree so unfortunately its an argument which cant be won either way. I have my opinions and you have yours and i believe certain people see multiple grains as an opportunity to ramp the price up and use it purely as a marketing tool. I have around 10 bats at the minute all with different number of grains from 15 down to 9 and if I'm honest very little difference at all between them.
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