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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2011, 07:45:05 AM »

100not out, if the clefts didn't meet your standards visually, why did you order?
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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2011, 07:46:03 AM »

I have been on this forum for sometime and I have spoken to many batmakers now and everyone says it is very hard to come across a low density cleft so seeing the amount of orders Laver & Wood recently got with the offer they came up was near 10 so if James or Andy don't hand select there clefts and buy 1000 clefts per year then how can they get soo many low density while others hardly come across any?
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2011, 07:48:46 AM »

Good question. . . .in the end . . . .i left it in their capable hands.
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2011, 07:50:47 AM »

I selected my cleft on weight then looks as wanted a light one to get a nice big bay for the weight
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2011, 09:57:25 AM »

I have been on this forum for sometime and I have spoken to many batmakers now and everyone says it is very hard to come across a low density cleft so seeing the amount of orders Laver & Wood recently got with the offer they came up was near 10 so if James or Andy don't hand select there clefts and buy 1000 clefts per year then how can they get soo many low density while others hardly come across any?

Whether you realise it or not, you've just hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2011, 11:32:49 AM »

I think the question is "are you going to use the bat or just look at it".....if your only going to look at it then you waznt the best looking bat but if you intend to use it then who cares what it looks like...its the performance that matters.

I have had some top of the range "off the shelf" bats with terrible looking grains but outperform anything I have used...In a bat I want performance first!!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2011, 11:35:38 AM »

I think the question is "are you going to use the bat or just look at it".....if your only going to look at it then you waznt the best looking bat but if you intend to use it then who cares what it looks like...its the performance that matters.

I have had some top of the range "off the shelf" bats with terrible looking grains but outperform anything I have used...In a bat I want performance first!!!!!

True but they market the special reserve as the not so good looking yet performs as well as anything so you'd hope that at £150 more, the reserve would give you the best of both worlds, performance and aesthetics.
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2011, 11:38:10 AM »

From what I have seen so far the Reserves are a better looking willow than the Specials
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2011, 11:59:46 AM »

You're not really seeing my point. For a £150 premium which by their own admission will not necessarily give you a performance advantage over the SR unless you then pay a further premium for the secondary drying, you would hope that for that £150 premium you would be getting a very nice looking bat indeed.

If we are to believe everything that is said, the SR is the bat that represents the best value in the Laver lineup, however I'm now not entirely sure that this £250 G2/3 bat represents good value for money in the grand scheme of things, when £250 will buy you many brands top model.
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2011, 12:08:37 PM »

But Jon they tell you this

I can get a chalet pressed grade 1 for 150 so why did i go for a laver because i can and i think there better my opinion only i may add.

Why buy a Ferrari when you can buy a car that can go as fast for half the price....

Why do we all not flock to get the cheapest bats going

why do people knock Asian made bats and pay less for them

Why do some people pay over 300 notes for a 2nd hand bat then sell it at a major loss

Because people can bud i not turning anti you but sometime you answer your own questions.

Everything is horses for courses mate and subjective as the words written.

James Laver i would have thought is rated among the top 5 batmakers in the world for a good reason because he makes good bats.

I think they have made a few error with orders and will put them right.

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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »

I do see your point but can't comment on performance as I haven't used either yet so I can only comment on looks..I would go for performance over looks any day of the week though.

Just out of interest what brands were you referring to when you say £250 will get their top model???
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »

I do see your point but can't comment on performance as I haven't used either yet so I can only comment on looks..I would go for performance over looks any day of the week though.

Just out of interest what brands were you referring to when you say £250 will get their top model???

Blue Room, H4L, Lekka, Ayrtek just off the top of my head.
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2011, 12:18:04 PM »

Just on a side note I am not sure what you guys in the UK pay for a top of the line "off the shelf" bat over there but here in OZ we pay the equivalent of £490 so I think for £250 for a custom made bat made to however you want it no matter which custom brand it is I believe is a pretty good deal
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2011, 12:21:12 PM »

Jon may i ask why you buy Salix bats there not the cheapest.....
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Re: Reserve or Special Reserve?!
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2011, 12:25:33 PM »

I can get a chalet pressed grade 1 for 150 so why did i go for a laver because i can and i think there better my opinion only i may add.
They have a press there do they?
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