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Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« on: December 19, 2011, 08:42:46 AM »

Haven't noticed many left arm bowlers in international circuit bowling with front on action. Perhaps Wayne Parnell from SA but not too sure if he is fully front on.

I have a dodgy left knee and it takes a toll when I bowl left arm with side on action. I am more comfortable with front on action but spray down the leg side while bowling over the wicket, hence always have to bowl around the wicket which is not ideal.

Any suggestions / videos of a left arm bowler bowling front on over the wicket will be of great help!
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 08:47:12 AM »

what sort of angle do you approach the crease with? very straight or with an angle?
have you had you action recorded so you can look at it?
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 09:01:45 AM »

could be the wrist thats causing the issue. one of our junior players has a lazy wrist and sprays it down the leg all the time. if he remembers to think about things hes ok. as soon as he stops thinking he sprays it everywhere
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 09:04:22 AM »

I have a straight run up, can't leap too much due to knee condition. Unfortunately, do not have any video at this moment, will make one and post it soon.

The ball comes out of my hand pretty nicely with seam upright and with a semi new ball I am able to swing the ball both ways.

I lack in following:
1. Run up  -- I tend to loose my rhythm as I am approaching the crease. Never able to fix my run up. Any ideas how to replicate my run up over and over again. I tried counting paces but never helped. Any useful stuff on how I can make it smooth would certainly help.

2. Control -- As I mentioned, I am more comfortable bowling front on, but over the wicket it just takes the ball always drifting down the leg stump.
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 09:25:08 AM »

Bowl sidearm.

Low stress on the knees, once you have practiced it, its no less effective than bowling front on.
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 09:30:21 AM »

Like Johners77 said I suspect the wrist position might be wrong.
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 09:36:44 AM »

I have a straight run up, can't leap too much due to knee condition. Unfortunately, do not have any video at this moment, will make one and post it soon.

The ball comes out of my hand pretty nicely with seam upright and with a semi new ball I am able to swing the ball both ways.

I lack in following:
1. Run up  -- I tend to loose my rhythm as I am approaching the crease. Never able to fix my run up. Any ideas how to replicate my run up over and over again. I tried counting paces but never helped. Any useful stuff on how I can make it smooth would certainly help.

2. Control -- As I mentioned, I am more comfortable bowling front on, but over the wicket it just takes the ball always drifting down the leg stump.


based on the above, i would think your over thinking everything. your run ups a problem so your thinking about that instead of where your trying to put the ball. i would say a few minor tweaks and your there. is the same with most things. the more you think about it and analyse it the harder it becomes to get it right. keep things simple. out of interest how far is your run up?
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 09:38:38 AM »

Also what is your head position at the moment of delivery?
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 09:46:29 AM »

I'm with Johners77 on this one. Simplify!  :D
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 10:02:35 AM »

Thanks for your suggestions. My run up is around around 13 paces.
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 10:05:24 AM »

1. Run up  -- I tend to loose my rhythm as I am approaching the crease. Never able to fix my run up. Any ideas how to replicate my run up over and over again. I tried counting paces but never helped. Any useful stuff on how I can make it smooth would certainly help.

2. Control -- As I mentioned, I am more comfortable bowling front on, but over the wicket it just takes the ball always drifting down the leg stump.

Run up - go to a field.  Place a bat on the ground and start your run from there, then just run until you're comfortable and complete your action.  Do this half a dozen times - if you're comfotable in the same place every time, thats your run up length, which you can then pace out...


Control - tougher one this, without seeing your action I wouldn't be able to comment, though there are several possibilities!
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 11:27:34 AM »

I bowl left arm over with a partly front on action. Whether you bowl side on or front on is only a small part of it.

1. Run Up - start off 2 or 3 paces and gradually work back a couple of paces at a time until you get a balance between pace and control
2. Dragging down leg - if this happens less going around the wicket then it sounds like your bowling arm and release points are crooked. Concentrate on getting your arm as straight as possible and driving your wrist/arm through the direction you want the ball to go. It could be your arm is swinging around your body and dragging down leg at the moment.
3. Head still at delivery, looking at were you want to bowl the ball - left arm over ought to be in the channel 6 inches outside off stick. Bowl to straight and you risk dragging it down leg.
4. Jumping in delivery stride - give it up, aim to run through the crease with a last big stride instead of a jump. Again it's about control, keep on the ground and you keep in control. Jumping in the air looks great but don't deliver until you land and staying upright and balanced is more important.

Other factors like ridges and slopes on the crease can also require you to adjust but concentrate on the basics first.
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 11:38:26 AM »

What about where your front foot points at delivery - when you bowl front on, this has a significant impact on your ability to brace your front leg - if it is splayed open you will collapse and lose control... (or so I hear - I am always weary of heading towards bowling advice.)

the issue you have now is you have lots of different bits of advice - some of which may be a game changer for you and some may make you worse - without being able to watch you bowl the help is limited... (in my view)
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 11:51:51 AM »

the issue you have now is you have lots of different bits of advice - some of which may be a game changer for you and some may make you worse - without being able to watch you bowl the help is limited... (in my view)

Gotta say I agree with that - with batting its relatively easy to apply simple principles, but with a bowling action there are so many interlinked movements that "fixing" one perceived problem might stop something else working - a classic example of this was when Troy Cooley tried to get Jimmy Anderson to look up as he delivered the ball!
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Re: Left Arm Medium pace with front on action ?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 12:16:12 PM »

Some really good inputs..
I will try to make a video of my bowling and post it here.
Thanks again.
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