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[alba caerulea]

10 years ago Vic. How do you think the current Australian side would fare?

[Nickauger]

the 2003 Aussie team is a very different quality to the current Aussie team or to this English team.
a poor comparison really.

Hmm, well there's a surprise. Living in the past lol

[golders]

Troll?

No.

Australia played Pakistan in those same neutral venues as England has, and Australia won 3-0.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64002.html

Statto!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64001.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64003.html

[armie]

Troll?

No.

Australia played Pakistan in those same neutral venues as England has, and Australia won 3-0.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64002.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64001.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64003.html

lets be fair on this one, that team was a reaction to poor world cup performance with just about everyone with experience dropped. No wasim, no saeed anwar, no Inzamam. Plus that side had barely played cricket together. the two can not be compared, this team is certainly a lot better and settled as well.

[Vic Nicholas]

Yes, totally different teams and different eras - for God sakes, the Waugh brothers were still playing!

However, I made the point that:

1/ The Emirates are not in the Sub Continent/Asia

And in response that Australia had never won there as well...

2/ The only time Australia played a test series in the Mid East, Australia won every test.

I wasn't the one making the comparison with the present, other Limey (No Swearing Please) here were.

It seems the imminent loss of the "20 years of #1" status little more than 6 months after it was acquired to the South Africans is making some Limey's extremely jumpy.

The level of arrogance and sheer stupidity displayed on this board over the last six months is unravelling now...and the major culprits are panicking as the ship slowly sinks beneath them.

Enjoy #1 while it lasts chaps.

[Buzz]

I think you are miss reading a little nationalistic enthusiasm with arrogance.

[Vic Nicholas]

I think you are miss reading a little nationalistic enthusiasm with arrogance.

Nothing wrong with celebrating your team being #1 and being so damned good.

Most on here have been quite reasonable - so it would be unfair for me to suggest all have been insufferable, when most have done nothing more than rejoice that their nation has climbed the mountain.

The simpletons that were gloating that Australia had gone into a "West Indies type decline" of which there would be no return, well, they are the ones who have raised my ire.

When I mentioned that it would take about five years for Australia to be ready to challenge for the #1 position, I was laughed out of teh house as if I was insane. Miscreants on here would then proceed to attempt to show me that I was in for ten to twenty years of misery, with a smashing from Sri Lanka, a 2-0 crushing by South Africa and 4-0 crushing from India awaiting.

All I could say at the time was that "Australia regenerate quicker than anybody else".

I was treated like an escaped mental asylum inmate for suggesting the above.

The wheel is turning and the idiots days of gloating on here are numbered.

[Johnny]

I think the best way to compare England and Australia is probably to comment on WHEN England play Australia - the rest is all if's and but's and maybe's.

This particular thread is for talking about England vs Pakistan.

Pakistan have bowled well and applied themselves when they've batted, England have bowled very well, their batting has been abysmal and mentally weak.

[Vic Nicholas]

10 years ago Vic. How do you think the current Australian side would fare?

I don't know.

I will have to wait to find out.

[Vic Nicholas]

I think the best way to compare England and Australia is probably to comment on WHEN England play Australia - the rest is all if's and but's and maybe's.

This particular thread is for talking about England vs Pakistan.

Pakistan have bowled well and applied themselves when they've batted, England have bowled very well, their batting has been abysmal and mentally weak.

Rehman barely turned a ball, yet the English batsmen got themselves into a tangle as to what *might* happen rather than what actually was happening.

The conditions were not conducive to fast bowlers, but they were hardly a spinning dust bowl either.

[kaustav]

Wow!! Just checked the score; wonder why there is no discussion on this yet?

2-1 series I think. Good overall win for Pakistan. A victory in the 3rd test for England will be good for the psyche of the team.

[mdl_1979]

Looks like the awful second innings in the 2nd Test may have cost England the chance of a series win.

[Canners]

interesting interview with KP, same old subject with the left arm over spinners eh

id love to see KP pos up and swing the bat against these pakistan slow bowlers

[golders]

Rehman barely turned a ball, yet the English batsmen got themselves into a tangle as to what *might* happen rather than what actually was happening.

The conditions were not conducive to fast bowlers, but they were hardly a spinning dust bowl either.

Yeah. the deliveries that dismissed morgan and broad barely turned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnfVPyfT14

[armie]

dang, this one is not going good for Pakistan.