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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #525 on: February 03, 2012, 01:21:05 PM »

Questions over a pitch spinning so much from Day 1?
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« Reply #526 on: February 03, 2012, 01:24:35 PM »

It's not really spinning all that much though is it?  DRS and chief exec's pitches have meant that the art of playing the spinning ball has gone out of the game.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #527 on: February 03, 2012, 01:30:33 PM »

as mentioned 100 times before!

this is used by the military for missile tracking!

if it wasn't the best most accurate system in the world am sure they wouldn't use it in the ariforce etc then there budget is ££££££££££££££££££££££££

I have never thought it was inaccurate, I was just covering my bases, lol.

What I don't understand is why a certain percentage of the ball has to be hitting the stumps for it to be overturned, as any part hitting the stumps will surely dislodge the bails. Like, 50% of the ball has to be hitting the centre of the outside stumps to be overturned, which is just ridiculous as the ball would have otherwise hit the stumps and the batsmen would be out. I could understand 50% from the outside of the stump, but it is 50% from the centre of the stump.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #528 on: February 03, 2012, 01:35:37 PM »

It's not really spinning all that much though is it?  DRS and chief exec's pitches have meant that the art of playing the spinning ball has gone out of the game.

It's spinning a long way for a day one pitch though, but I agree with you to an extent.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #529 on: February 03, 2012, 02:36:30 PM »

England's seam bowlers bowled really well on this surface. Very disciplined.

England's batsmen where pretty reckless. Too many loose shots.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #530 on: February 03, 2012, 03:23:38 PM »

pretty even stevens at the moment, the first 2 sessions tomorrow could decide who win this game. 
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #531 on: February 03, 2012, 03:25:41 PM »

I'm going for the double tomorrow - England to lose tomorrow in the cricket followed by the rugby team losing to Scotland in the rugby. Safe as houses.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #532 on: February 03, 2012, 04:24:07 PM »

Why not? His pad prevented the ball from hitting it, where it otherwise would have.

I see your point though, how accurate is the system really and how can it say that the ball is or is not going to just hit the stumps.

Hokay, I grew up in an era where it was assumed that the benefit of the doubt went to the batsman (because once he was gone he was, well, gone, and the bowler always had another chance) - it did sometimes get to the stage when, say, Dickie Bird was umpiring, when nothing was ever out, but for the most part this worked equally - albeit with some poor decisions made (reference the Ashes series in 2005, for example).


Now, DRS has done many good things - its revitalised spin bowling for a start - but its primary purpose was not to change the rules, but to get rid of the shocking decisions.  Now, to take Pietersen's today as an example, Hawkeye showed that, at best, the last coat of spit on the leather was brushing the very edge of the bail.  Benefit of the doubt, perhaps?  On the screen, you could see middle and off stumps when the ball hit him and it did not in any way look out!  Strauss got a similarly poor one second dig in Abu Dhabi, when the ball *might* have been partially in line and *might* have been brushing the top of the stumps - again, that to me is a stinker, no doubt about it...
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #533 on: February 03, 2012, 04:45:45 PM »

There are limitations of the DRS and I do agree about the benefit of the doubt but there are no excuses for the third umpire to make blunders like Strauss's bat pad in the last game or Hafeez's inside edge today. 
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #534 on: February 04, 2012, 06:46:18 AM »

Swann batting in a cap, and Monty with a scoop. Perfect.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #535 on: February 04, 2012, 06:49:31 AM »

Swann batting in a cap, and Monty with a scoop. Perfect.

would like to see some big hitting from swann here......

was very disappointed seeing strauss get out in that fashion, he looked to have mastered coming down the track to the spinners as well, at least he was being positive tho.....

Come on England
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #536 on: February 04, 2012, 06:50:36 AM »

would like to see some big hitting from swann here......

was very disappointed seeing strauss get out in that fashion, he looked to have mastered coming down the track to the spinners as well, at least he was being positive tho.....

Come on England
He tried, and now he's out. England with a 1st Innings lead of 42.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #537 on: February 04, 2012, 06:53:54 AM »

If Pakistan sets a target of 150 or more it is going to be again quite interesting.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #538 on: February 04, 2012, 06:54:34 AM »

If Pakistan sets a target of 150 or more it is going to be again quite interesting.
If Pakistan set a target of 50 or more...
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #539 on: February 04, 2012, 03:26:10 PM »

A side is bowled out for 99 against the number one team in the world. In under two sessions on the first day. Yet they are in the driving seat going into day 3. What's going on???
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