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[thecord]

I agree Sherpa. That is why 99% of batsman have a trigger as it gets you in a balanced "ready" position.  Trigger movements are used in most ball sports. Look at a tennis player as they are about to receive a serve or a goalkeeper about to save a penalty.

I think they are essential.

I can't disagree with the tennis side of things but having received an extensive amount of goalkeeping training in my youth trigger movements were something that they tried to coach you out of doing if anything. It was all about being still and set ready to move.

I'm no cricket coach and I don't play at a great standard but to me it would seem as though there are as many players that use trigger movements well as those who prefer to remain still and it really comes down to the individual. I think that it is true what Buzz says though that at an amature level there is more thatt can go wrong if you start playing around with triggers.

[Bulldog Cricket]

I guess it's what ever works for you. I was coached at a young age to have a trigger and have always been a fan.

With the goalkeeper how do you get in the set position ? Because I know know with fielding it's have moved away from walking in to jumping into a "set" position ala a goalkeeper.

[thecord]

It's an interesting one. I remember watching a masterclass with Jack Russell who said that he always liked to be on the move like a goalkeeper. In fact the way I was coached as a goalkeeper suggested that if you are on the move your reactions will be slowed as you will need to get both feet on the ground in a solid position again before you can push off to either dive or move in any direction. If you were able to time a jump into position absolutely perfectly then this would be ok but in reality it would be impossible to do this consistently. It is probably more of an issue for a goalkeeper in open play as he cannot know when the ball will be struck whereas with a penalty or in cricket you have a far better idea of when impact will take place.

[Bulldog Cricket]

What ever you call it I'm struggling to think of one sport where you keep totally still ? Golf darts snooker cricket rugby etc all have some sort of movement before hitting the ball. Whether you call that a trigger or not is another thing.

Interesting subject.

[thecord]

Surely in golf you are still other than the backswing which translates very well to a backlift in cricket?
Also darts I would say is pretty much the same, pretty key to be still.

Very interesting topic though which we are horribly hijacking, apologies!

[Buzz]

Face is too open!

nope - that is what is comfortable for that batsman - how open the bat is on take back is largely irrelevant.

I really don't know much about wicket keeping (or tennis - but I understand the "quick-step" idea) - but the trigger for a batsman doesn't have to be a foot movement, it can be part of the pickup of the bat or a flex of the knees - so while you say 99% of batsmen have a trigger, it isn't always a foot movement. As I have said once or twice - most amateur batsmen move around far too much and by staying stiller they find it much easier to pick up the length and line of the delivery.

if you do go down the foot movement trigger route you need to have it coached into you and as this is done wrong so often I actively discourage it - you have to understand about your starting position, when you trigger, where the trigger in the crease takes you. As well as doing it whilst keeping your head still and eyes level.
Why bring all that complication in?
In golf you can use a forward press, again it is only a "fidget"

[jamesisapayne]

I agree Sherpa. That is why 99% of batsman have a trigger as it gets you in a balanced "ready" position.  Trigger movements are used in most ball sports. Look at a tennis player as they are about to receive a serve or a goalkeeper about to save a penalty.

I think they are essential.

I can't disagree with the tennis side of things but having received an extensive amount of goalkeeping training in my youth trigger movements were something that they tried to coach you out of doing if anything. It was all about being still and set ready to move.

I'm no cricket coach and I don't play at a great standard but to me it would seem as though there are as many players that use trigger movements well as those who prefer to remain still and it really comes down to the individual. I think that it is true what Buzz says though that at an amateur level there is more that can go wrong if you start playing around with triggers.

Both goalkeeping and tennis require front-facing postures though, whereas cricket is kind of unique in that you play the game side on with arms going parallel to your body, unlike golf.

I think most problems with moving after a shot is to do with incorrect feet and head position - both of which are probably the most vital aspect to good technique

[Spanky]

I may be completely wrong here, personally I feel you just have a habit of walking through your shots and isn't always a balance problem. Couple of shots you fall away to the offside.

Whereas often it looked like you played the shot then just walked down the pitch as if it was habit. Maybe try to hold you final position for each shot, to try and get out of the habit.

Just my opinion, may be completey wrong.

[Bulldog Cricket]

Surely in golf you are still other than the backswing which translates very well to a backlift in cricket?
Also darts I would say is pretty much the same, pretty key to be still.

Very interesting topic though which we are horribly hijacking, apologies!

I would class a golfers waggle as a trigger. And a darts players has a couple of feathers before throwing as does a snooker player before hitting the ball.

It is interesting. 

[Simmy]

grrr just wrote a massive paragraph and website kicked me off! grrr lol

basically as a goal keeper you should allways be on the move depending on where the ball is so you have your angles covered.

on a penltey i stand 6 inch behind the lind and my first movment is forward then i go left or right but its a pre meditated left or right so u cant count that.

you cant use cricket in the same context tho as any other sport

[Bulldog Cricket]

why not ?

that is why wicket keepers have worked with goalkeepers and fielders with baseball coaches.

There are many similarities between sports.

[Simmy]

sorry kieron i ment u cant compare batting to other sports.

ie goalkeeping and wicket keeping very similar

goalkeeping and batting not so much

[Bulldog Cricket]

Ah i see.

The similarities are that both require a trigger movement to get you in a "set" position.

My thought anyway !!

[cricketbadger]

interested to hear why you feel goalkeeping and wicketkeeping are very similar?

[Bulldog Cricket]

Im not a wicket keeper but we have all seen the wicket keeper of 20 years ago where they would crouch right down to what we see today where a wicket keeper is more upright (when standing back) in a similar position to a goal keeper. Also how to get in a position ready to dive left or right has been developed from a goalkeeper.

A wicket keeper on here may be able to explain in more detail.