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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 08:45:31 AM »

Because such things interest me, here is Alastair Cook's record after the same amount of Tests as Watson has currently played - a lot of fifties as Tumo said, but seven centuries too. HS is one higher than Watson, however, he has taken a couple less wickets...

Mat Inns NO Runs  HS   Ave   BF     SR   100 50
35    64   2  2634 127 42.48 5704 46.17   7  15   

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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 09:19:18 AM »

I agree that club cricketers think that the longer you bat at the crease the more boundaries you shoudl be hitting so much so that after 30 overs at the crease every ball has to go to the boundary!! Is it the 20-20 craze that is causing this problem? A lack of experience at pacing an innings? Or jsut a general tiredness and lack of concentration? Probably the lot..... especially in young kids.

I used to rely on boundaries quite a lot, now i love to get the boundaries early, spread the field ..... milk the singles and the odd boundary ..... bring the field back in then start smashing the boundaries again when well set.

Working the field is an often overlooked part of batting by many inexperienced batters.

Once you get a big score, you realise it isnt all smash bang wallop like these fellas on the TV ....... 

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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 09:45:17 AM »

I agree that club cricketers think that the longer you bat at the crease the more boundaries you shoudl be hitting so much so that after 30 overs at the crease every ball has to go to the boundary!! Is it the 20-20 craze that is causing this problem? A lack of experience at pacing an innings? Or jsut a general tiredness and lack of concentration? Probably the lot..... especially in young kids.

Good comment.  When I was young (15-19) I could hit the ball miles, play all the shots in the book and had lightning reflexes.  I averaged 25ish.  Now I'm old and run down, almost never hit sixes and have a reputation (albeit slightly harshly) as a total crabber.  I average 40+ most seasons...

If the 19 year old me had the 34 year old me's brain, we might have made a half way decent player...
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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 09:50:03 AM »

I learnt a lot from playing indoor cricket with the drop and run so whenever I bat in a match with someone I played indoor with then we would often pick up lots of singles and frustrate the oppo. It's amazing how many more runs you can score with good running.
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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 01:17:56 PM »

I learnt a lot from playing indoor cricket with the drop and run so whenever I bat in a match with someone I played indoor with then we would often pick up lots of singles and frustrate the oppo. It's amazing how many more runs you can score with good running.

In 4th XI cricket it's easy to see early on who you can hit the ball to and still take a single.  A lot of players at club level aren't good enough to run you out when you take a sharp single.  I have been run out by a couple of direct hits, but then that's the risk you take if you misjudge how well you hit the ball...

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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2012, 07:47:59 AM »

Today we have my hero Aakash on Virat Kholi... (who needs the "Analyst" when we have the "Insider"...)
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/581741.html

The Kohli method
His numbers are phenomenal, and that's thanks largely to his ability to make a plan and stick to it

When they first donned the Indian colours, the likes of Ms Dhoni and Yuvraj Singh were self-assured, resilient, fiercely talented and more. Today, though, Virat Kohli seems to have outmoded his predecessors in a manner that has made him the face of Indian cricket's next generation. He has scored 13 centuries in 90 ODI matches. Those are phenomenal numbers by any yardstick. Look closer, in a comparative framework, and the numbers hit harder. Kumara Sangakkara, for instance, has scored 14 hundreds, 11 of those from No. 3 or higher, in 333 ODIs. Virender Sehwag has scored 15 in 249 matches, and Gautam Gambhir has 11 in 139. These stats, striking as they are, tell us a thing or two about the sort of prospect Kohli is for Indian cricket.

If one goes by the exterior - the spiky hair, tattoos, the swagger and arrogance of a confident young man, Kohli epitomises 21st century Indian youth. But the way he bats, especially in the first half of each innings, he seems the antithesis of how young cricketers in India like to bat in this day and age of T20 cricket. These days most young men prefer to go after the bowling right from the beginning, and to keep hitting it till they last. It takes your breath away when it comes off, and looks woeful when it doesn't, but taking a bit of a risk seems to be the new way of living.

Kohli, on the contrary, is old-fashioned when it comes to constructing his innings. Regardless of his personal form, familiarity with the attack and the conditions, he always starts slowly, albeit confidently. At the beginning of an innings, every batsman is slightly edgy and likes to get bat on ball and score a few to get going. This urge to get on with the game is even stronger if you are in good form. It must take immense self-control for Kohli to resist that temptation every time he walks out to bat these days, and to stick to his original plan of biding time.

His self-control at the beginning of every innings is the primary reason for his consistency. Exercising this self-control would be a lot easier for someone who doesn't have as many shots as Kohli does, which makes his self-denial more creditable. His ability to plan meticulously and then diligently follow the plan is the common thread in most of his innings.

Conventional wisdom suggests that the bigger the arc one's bat creates, the more power one generates. The arc starts from the top of the backlift and finishes with the follow-through after playing the shot. The best way to ensure a bigger arc is to allow the top hand to remain in control for as long as possible and extend the arms fully (elbow not bent) after playing the shot. Kohli's bat-swing, however, is not quite how the coaching manuals say it ought to be. He has a relatively short backlift, and an even shorter follow-through. But he generates phenomenal bat speed by flicking his wrists at the point of contact, which in turn generates immense power. The flip side of such a bat-swing is that he is a bottom-hand-dominated player. Once again, though, by delaying his strokes, he has found a way to be equally fluent through the off side.

When I saw Kohli for the first time, I was a little sceptical about his short front-foot stride. To make matters more complicated, that short stride was going far too across. While the short and across front-foot stride allowed him to whip balls pitched on middle through the on side, it also made him slightly susceptible to full-pitched swinging deliveries, or when the ball deviated appreciably off the pitch.

During one of our conversations while playing for Delhi, I told him about my observations. He assured me that he had found a way around it, which was by allowing the ball to come to him. I saw merit in his method of dealing with the shortcoming, but I wasn't fully convinced that it would work at the highest level.

By scoring 13 ODI hundreds while batting at No. 3, he has certainly proved that his solution works just fine. It also proves that technique is slightly overrated at times. In fact, Kohli's method of overcoming his technical deficiency is his biggest strength: playing very late. By allowing the ball to come to him, he is able to find the gaps more often. Playing the ball right under his eyes also ensures that he misses fewer deliveries, and so the perils of the short front-foot stride are taken care of.

He may still find it slightly difficult when the ball is pitched up in seaming conditions, but considering the way he has evolved as a batsman, I don't have any reasons to believe that Kohli won't find a way around that too.
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Re: Batting - something to think about...
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2012, 04:39:38 PM »

here is how to do it...
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