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Becoming a joke!
« on: May 26, 2012, 08:52:57 PM »

Hi Guys,

3rd game of the season today and am sitting at home dwelling over the joke that was today's game as well as the overall feeling of a rubbish seasons cricket so far (And that was after the rain).
Having dropped down the leagues due to moving counties for University commitments I find myself now playing village cricket... end of the day its still a game and also I am helping them out as they didn't have a wicketkeeper. For these guys we have club/team umpires (one from each team or two from the home team).
This is the follow fielding scenario for the past 3 games:

Game 1 - After the opening pair put on past 100 on a very very very damp track we started to skittle them out and got them 120/7.
The next batsman comes in and takes guard about half a foot outside he crease, I was standing back about 5ft from the stumps after some very wayward bowling. Bowler comes in... Play and a miss... Into the gloves... Notice batsman hasn't stepped back into the crease...  Bails off... How is that ? .......................... Not out. I was absolutely baffled by the fact that this was the simplest of all stumpings that could be given, the batsman made absolutely no attempt to step back in and was clearly out. (The batsman however commented I called him out before removing the bails...... yet he was still out his crease.) Firstly due to the time delay the umpire may have switched off as it wasn't an instant stumping however by no means was the ball dead... Surely the Leg Umpire has only one job to concentrate on and should be doing this to the full?

Game 2 - Playing on a better track with some carry however standing up to a medium pacer, their batsmen plays and misses a leg side glance, over balances and falls out the crease. The bails were off in one quick smooth motion... Hows that ? Not out... At this point the batsman was still outside his crease. Umpire said the bails were taken off whilst the batsman was still in his ground and then he fell out.... At this point a roar of laughter comes from the slips, gully and point. And their players questioning why he wasn't given out as it was clear even from the pavilion .....
However the game then seemed to go in our advance as a new batsman tried a leg glance missed and ball carried through and I took it and then just threw and caught the ball a couple of times in the gloves...I then turn to see the Umpire give the batsman out for a caught behind ... that no one appealed?
Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

Game 3 (Today's game and by far the most frustrating) - After starting well taking out one opener, no3 and no4 their team looked in trouble. Their opener edged and fluked his way to the 40's. The batsman then tries an audacious leg side shot that came through via the pads and into the gloves. The Bowler, Slips and Myself appealed to be given not out and the batsman turning to me and saying you know I didn't hit it so why f---ing cheat? As many wickeys know, you don't have a great idea whether the batsman hits it and it comes down leg but there was definitely two noises and if you don't ask you don't get.
The same batsman then continued to edge and fluke his way to the 90's... He then tried to sweep a swing bowler to leg missing completely and kicking up a lot of dust... Appealed this but before I had even finished appealing I noticed that the batsman was still out his ground by 1-2 feet and whipped off the bails and ready to begin celebrating only for both the appeals to be given not out. After the confusing of what was being appealed I knew the stumping was out the umpires decided not out... The batsman once again chirped up and said "just shut the f--- up and get on with the game". At the end of the over I chirped with "The problem is you knew you were out and the decent thing to do would have been a gentleman and walked" To which this guy replied "We will discuss it in the bar after the game" Which came across as slightly pathetic for a guy who knew he was cheating himself and everyone on the pitch.
Next over the first ball comes through from an offy and the same batsman plays and misses... I return the ball to the bowler only for the batsman to say to the umpire I tried to throw the ball and him ... I was given a warning even though the umpire watched me return the ball. Next ball the guy sweeps and is plum LBW  Appeal - Given ..... Batsman turns to Me and says you better watch yourself after the game.
After batting quite poorly I come into bat at number 5... Offy gives me a lovely full floated toss, smashed away for 4. Next ball comes in and I pick it up and smash it through the covers for 4... same happened to the next two balls.... However what I failed to notice was the gentleman batsman was standing at cover and said to the umpire I was attempting to hit the ball at him to which the umpire warned me for unsportmans like conduct ..... At this point I nearly retired as I had literally had enough of the Umpires and the so called sportsmanship and conduct in the field.

After all this am I right to feel aggrieved tonight or am I just worrying about stuff to much ? I know an umpire is not going to change a decision and I know nothing can be done about it now but after considering the last few games on the journey home I just feel like knocking the season on the head and enjoying the summer in a different way which would really be a huge shame.

But after being cheated and warned by what was supposed to be our team umpire I feel its a pointless task even turning up to play again as the bloke clearly doesn't have a clue. I would understand had it been one of their umpires and maybe a bit of cheating going on but not when decisions are so clear cut the all the guy needs to do is raise the finger.

Give me some words of wisdom CBF to calm me down after this rant!
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 09:08:05 PM »

However what I failed to notice was the gentleman batsman was standing at cover and said to the umpire I was attempting to hit the ball at him to which the umpire warned me for unsportmans like conduct .

Never heard this before, might have to try it myself when I'm having a poor game in the field and the ball is following me around!  :D

At the end of the day, Cricket is supposed to be fun, if you're not having fun then you need to voice your opinion to your club about the poor umpiring and if nothing improves then move on to a new club. Have a word with either the umpire himself or somebody else at the club and see if they can get it resolved, because if they really need a wicketkeeper then they will value you and hopefully try to keep you happy.
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 09:10:11 PM »

maybe try to find a different league .... might have to travel for an hour but it will be worth it.


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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 10:48:56 PM »

Sounds to me like you haven't quite grasped the concept of village cricket....the whole tone of your post suggests it is all a bit beneath you. If that attitude is coming through on the pitch then I doubt this is the last issue you'll experience this season....bad stuff happens....get over it. Or maybe go to a club more befitting of the standard you think your at?

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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 08:42:21 AM »

Never heard this before, might have to try it myself when I'm having a poor game in the field and the ball is following me around!  :D

Its the first time this has happened to me and I really just think the umpire was on a hate mission or maybe had a soft spot for the bloke but it was absolutely pathetic. I just thought though it is his choice to stand there
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 08:45:30 AM »

Sounds to me like you haven't quite grasped the concept of village cricket....the whole tone of your post suggests it is all a bit beneath you. If that attitude is coming through on the pitch then I doubt this is the last issue you'll experience this season....bad stuff happens....get over it. Or maybe go to a club more befitting of the standard you think your at?

I have grasped the concept of it and understand that the quality of the game and umpires isn't what I am use to playing.

However cheating isn't acceptable at any level of the sport at just brings the game down. Although bad stuff does happen (3 scores not in double figures so far this season) I don't think any one on this forum could say they turn a blind eye to cheaters.

As I said I had to move clubs for University but I didn't want to have to commit to a higher standard as I have work to do.
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 02:17:25 PM »

you've just gotta get on with it mate. everyone sees the game differently, there is nothing you can do to stop this. The same guy you thought you had stumped may have thought he was in the crease and have may now be having a similar rant about you trying to cheat him. That is life, that is cricket. that is sport. It'll even itself out, maybe not this season, but it will do at some point. Its harder to recognise when it does as you see the game different to i, but it will do!
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 12:49:21 AM »

you don't "fluke" your way into the 90's.
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2012, 07:33:42 AM »

this is terrible, you've had 5 or 6 decisions that have not gone your way in 3 games, I think the ICC should be called in...

Seriously, just get over it, your making way to much of it! If you don't like it go and play somewhere else.

But to be honest your sounding like a bit of a whiner
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2012, 07:57:40 AM »

From reading this it sounds like you feel you are to good to be playing at this standard and the game of cricket owes you something for doing so. I hate arrogant wicket-keepers and it seems like you could be coming across as one. Obviously like I say it seems like you could be coming across as one and I have no idea if you are or not ... Just get on with the game mate and enjoy every second. Yes you've had bad luck but that's sport buddy. It will even its self out in the end

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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2012, 08:23:21 AM »

Totally understand what you mean and to a degree I do sympathise.

Unfortunately, that's Village Cricket. No point getting worked up about it. The trouble is if you go to a 'bigger' club and play in a better league, that standard also has its inherent problems. That's sport.

Find a level/standard/atmosphere whatever, that you're happy playing at.
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM »

What a lovely bunch some of you are!

Really makes this forum seem like a nice place to discuss games and things revolving cricket.

I am not at all arrogant and I after each of the mentioned incidents I have just got on with the game and looked for the next opportunity.

The only reason I posted on here was to see other peoples opinions and whether anyone else had suffered the same fate as well as advice on it.

Not to be called a (No Swearing Please) or a whiner
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 02:12:38 PM »

Yer you shouldn't have been called those names mate.

Like you said just get on and look forward to the next opportunity :)
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 02:22:13 PM »

I think you have to just get over the 'not outs' - frustrating though they may be. The charge of deliberately hitting the ball at a player would have made me laugh if I had been accused of it - something along the lines of 'just how good a bat do you think I am?' would probably have been my reply.
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Re: Becoming a joke!
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2012, 02:44:25 PM »

go play at a better standard, with proper umpires
or just get on with it
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