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Re: B3
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2012, 12:15:02 PM »
Well just had a good chat with B3 and to be honest they are cricket enthusiast like you or aye and i can confirm they know there stuff.

They responded to my bombardment of emails and Facebook and i have gone with custom profile 3, edge 6, spine 1,.

What impressed me most was they were asking for answers from me about what i wanted weight not just dead but pick up and grains heartwood and so on and they talked in depth about what the offer without giving you waffle about how there the best and what not.

I look forward to reviewing the bat and so happy to get the shape i wanted

There was no hard sell either and Michael was a throughly nice bloke and it not often i say that.

 

 
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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2012, 12:18:51 PM »
Realistically I thought this process would cut the cost, as the shaping process is done by a machine - however I do understand there are overheads with this and obviously a big cost up front for the machine etc... However after a while, this would paid itself off.

With this, you can't really get the personal touch either. As these are quite rigid with how your bat is shaped - and again it really depends on the density of the cleft - much like the GM bats, to how your bat will pick up etc...
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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2012, 12:21:50 PM »
but i suspect there process is different to gm
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« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2012, 12:24:27 PM »
Probs right Dave, a small 3 man company making bats to order compared to an international bat manufacturer making 40,000 bats a year will have different processes.
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« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2012, 12:25:43 PM »
Quote from: Tom on August 31, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Probs right Dave, a small 3 man company making bats to order compared to an international bat manufacturer making 40,000 bats a year will have different processes.

you know what i mean Tom
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Re: B3
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2012, 12:33:31 PM »
Quote from: procricket on August 31, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
but i suspect there process is different to gm

I would have thought so, but as it's machine based - I guess these '1/2/3/4 etc'  are programmed into the machine, so I presume these edge/spine sizes will always be the same height/shape etc... - So I would have thought that a denser cleft will be the same size as a lighter cleft and that would be how they differentiate between the weights of their bats.

Don't quote me on this, I am just making an assumption on how GM work with their bats as I presume this is a similiar process as there would be a lot of different codes in the program to work out the size of cleft and then change the spine heigh/edge size accordingly.

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« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2012, 12:36:17 PM »
Think on a CNC you can alter the cutting path for a programmed shape so it shaves a mm more off the whole bat whilst retaining the same profile.

If you know the raw cleft weight then you can make an informed opinion onto how much to shave off, very broadly speaking 1mm = 1oz.
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« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2012, 12:59:51 PM »
Your right Tom you can alter cutting path even easier when using cad cam software as just click image and shrink by a mm

Depending on the cnc used could be a while to recoup costs so I suspect it's a rented machine but as its streaky I'm sure he will have a good one as he knows his stuff with machines and programming
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« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2012, 01:11:46 PM »
Think I'll contact them as interesting to know if they could work from a submitted CAD model, rather than one generated through the website.

I work daily with 3D software (catia)  so I have been playing with the idea of designing my ideal shape and having it made, so this sounds a very interesting concept.
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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2012, 01:12:56 PM »
Depending on the level of software and tooling it should be viable or be able to get very close
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« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2012, 02:38:33 PM »
The (former) Cadam component of Catia allows you to generate machine paths in a number of protocols, so I suspect it wouldn't be too difficult...
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Re: B3
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2012, 02:42:31 PM »
how much does a CNC cost?? any ideas

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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2012, 02:44:55 PM »
Depends on the model ones I operate and train people on are about £80k-£100k

Gms one was about £400k I think not 100% sure
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Re: B3
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2012, 02:48:18 PM »
£500,000 i thought they said but then that had 6 heads to it didnt it? would have thought a single one would come down in cost, I know Tims one produces 2 at a time as was Slazengers old one.
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2012, 02:51:22 PM »
It had two beds with a few tweaks to the head if I remember the expense would be the rotating pineapple cutter as that was something
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