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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #120 on: September 27, 2012, 06:58:04 PM »

You would open with Patel? For what reason? Get him out the way early?
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #121 on: September 27, 2012, 06:59:01 PM »

Oh and Chris Woakes would be in my side before Bresnan and Broad.

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« Reply #122 on: September 27, 2012, 07:04:15 PM »

You would open with Patel? For what reason? Get him out the way early?
Cause he can bat... Much better batsman than a lot of people give him credit for. Good clean hitter of the ball, and a damn sight better bet than Kieswetter (more consistent!). Oh, and he might like a pie or two but he's not unfit, just big. Still quick round the outfield, and a very good arm.

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« Reply #123 on: September 27, 2012, 07:04:33 PM »

well i like the 3rd spinner and Patel believe it or not is not a bad bat in any form of the game seriously underrated cricketer.

His strike rate is as good as Bedwetters and he has not really had a chance at international level t20 anyway

Sorry tumo just seen your reply

But Chris Woakes is cheer class
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« Reply #124 on: September 27, 2012, 07:06:03 PM »

It is funny Swann i think went for more than Patel but no mention of his poor bowling leave the big lad alone
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« Reply #125 on: September 27, 2012, 07:07:18 PM »

Maybe England are on the slide down hill due to new younger player's lack of experience and a duff skipper?
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #126 on: September 27, 2012, 07:27:06 PM »

Kieswetter is our 2nd best batsman, would be criminal to drop him.

I would have Bopara in the team instead of Patel or Hales.

Think our team still is very strong, just have not performed when it matters. Beat Australia and Pakistan in the warm up matches. Few bad games and suddenly everyone is a bad player and should not be playing. No reason why we cant beat Sri Lanka and New Zealand and go through.

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« Reply #127 on: September 27, 2012, 07:30:53 PM »

good is debate but nobody not saying were a decent side but not in the top 4 anymore in this form for me.

Kieswetter will not be dropped and Bopara can and has not bought a run in quite a while

Patel should be given a chance we need a biffer to open in my eyes somebody will real power play Bedwetter is 6 or 4 nothing else i want somebody to go at the bowling
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #128 on: September 27, 2012, 07:32:31 PM »

Kieswetter is our 2nd best batsman, would be criminal to drop him.

I would have Bopara in the team instead of Patel or Hales.

Think our team still is very strong, just have not performed when it matters. Beat Australia and Pakistan in the warm up matches. Few bad games and suddenly everyone is a bad player and should not be playing. No reason why we cant beat Sri Lanka and New Zealand and go through.
Are you anti-Notts or something?! Hales is a class act, better than Bopara. Bopara's never had the mental game, and unfortunately for him recent events in his life have affected him more. Hales has just hit 68, and has looked good since he came into the England side. Patel isn't used nearly enough as a batsman, and was poorly captained by Broad, can't have left arm spinners bowling to Gayle, meat and drink. Kieswetter's also a poor batsman, could park a bus in that bat-pad gap!

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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #129 on: September 27, 2012, 07:37:52 PM »

Are you anti-Notts or something?! Hales is a class act, better than Bopara. Bopara's never had the mental game, and unfortunately for him recent events in his life have affected him more. Hales has just hit 68, and has looked good since he came into the England side. Patel isn't used nearly enough as a batsman, and was poorly captained by Broad, can't have left arm spinners bowling to Gayle, meat and drink. Kieswetter's also a poor batsman, could park a bus in that bat-pad gap!
Kiesey isn't poor. He gets far too much stick. He has scored runs this year in all formats. Probably the best keeper batsman on the county circuit ATM.
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #130 on: September 27, 2012, 07:43:59 PM »

Prior by a mile if you can include him

Keiswetter is not a great keeper admittedly neither was Prior to start with

Bairstow for me is the air to the throne of Prior.

Or seeming as everybody plumping for there counties young alex davies

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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #131 on: September 27, 2012, 07:46:30 PM »

Prior by a mile if you can include him

Keiswetter is not a great keeper admittedly neither was Prior to start with

Bairstow for me is the air to the throne of Prior.

Or seeming as everybody plumping for there counties young alex davies


Didn't include prior as he's not really on the county circuit that often with tests etc but yes he would be up there with the best keeper in all formats. Bairstow is a decent keeper but doesn't do it enough and buttler I think will be there in a couple of years.
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #132 on: September 27, 2012, 07:58:58 PM »

Can't believe bopara is still there! He's an absolute imposter.
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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #133 on: September 27, 2012, 08:19:41 PM »

Kiesey isn't poor. He gets far too much stick. He has scored runs this year in all formats. Probably the best keeper batsman on the county circuit ATM.
Cannot agree with that at all. Would rather see Foster, Read, Wheater, Mustard, Simpson, Ambrose, and Bates ahead. Kieswetter too inconsistent behind the stumps, takes some very spectacular catches but wouldn't back him to take most of the simple ones. Need to stop searching for this Gilchrist-esque keeper, cause in ODIs/T20s we aren't going to find him. Pick a keeper who is exceptional behind the stumps, and solid in front of them. Or just pick Steven bloody Davies and have the right man in the side for the job!

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Re: ICC World T20 2012
« Reply #134 on: September 28, 2012, 03:03:31 PM »

Cannot agree with that at all. Would rather see Foster, Read, Wheater, Mustard, Simpson, Ambrose, and Bates ahead. Kieswetter too inconsistent behind the stumps, takes some very spectacular catches but wouldn't back him to take most of the simple ones. Need to stop searching for this Gilchrist-esque keeper, cause in ODIs/T20s we aren't going to find him. Pick a keeper who is exceptional behind the stumps, and solid in front of them. Or just pick Steven bloody Davies and have the right man in the side for the job!

I agree.  Although, foster and read are over the hill in my opinion.  Bates is probably the best pure keeper of the lot, but Davies offers the best in terms of solid keeping and batting (Admittedly, not on current form!)
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