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[Cover_Drive]

Okay, if we are talking about players bowling with an accurate speed gun rather than the horrid one that Sky had up until last season which made everyone 90mp, then I reckon the list of 85mph plus bowlers of Test standard or close would be:

Australia - Cummins (fully fit), Johnson (if everything is right), Starc, Siddle (if he bends his back)
England - Finn, Meaker, Anderson (when he wants to be), Bresnan (if he ever gets fully fit again)
India - yeah right!
New Zealand - nobody?
Pakistan - Gul can get there if he puts the effort in.
South Africa - Steyn, Morkel, possibly De Lange
Sri Lanka - Malinga
West Indies - Roach, Edwards, possibly Best


As for players coming through, I can only really comment on England here, but Tymal Mills and Moin Ashraf are there and thereabouts. I thought Coulter Nile looked pretty sharp when the A side toured England too...

I'm sure many can do it but not many are consistent such as Dale Steyn.

For New Zealand there was this young guy, can't recall his name but he was teenager who bowled fast. Played few ODIs/T20. Hopefully with Shane Bond New Zealand's bowling coach we'll find good pace prospect or at least that lad would be groomed.

Kemar Roach seems to be a very good bowler, he has good stats lets hope he is diligent bowler.

I haven't seen much of Meaker so can't comment on him but James Anderson is a lovely bowler. After Mohammad Asif he is one of the best swinger of the ball today (in fact, he IS the best today). Here is Mohammad Asif talking about Anderson;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbcRdaSCpCg

[Bear with his English]

Bresan is really capable of 85 mph?

Steven Finn is a good bowler too! Its shame he is not getting much preference over Bresan/Board (or is me, but I understand there batting comes in play)

Umar Gul is not a consistent 85 mph bowler, it is really shame that he spearheads Pakistan fast bowling today. The calibre of Pakistan fast bowling since commencement to international cricket was obviously exceptional and today they are at lowest point when it comes to fast bowling. Even in domestic there aren't many pacers coming up, there are few good Under19 bowlers but they are not 85 mph+ even.

Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif for once turned out to be most formidable fast bowling duo after Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram but too bad they fell in greedy, although I'm quite sure that Mohammad Amir will be back (although I would never accept him based on his previous moral record, whether he was forced etc is all bullocks to me!).

A lot of bowlers give up pace for line/length, rather than keeping both because of Twenty20 to gain quick entry to national side.

In short, I think it will take a while since world of cricket finds another Shoaib Akhtar or Brett Lee.

Pakistan has selected a seven footer bowler for India's Twenty20, lets see how he performs if he gets a chance. He is not fast but I'd be intrigued to see how a team coups with him when he bowls. His debut in England was rather shocking.

Was rather in rush and typing from my iPad so bear with me with errors.

[The_Bird]

Adam Milne was the NZ quickie, no idea where he is now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8LrDtjdwbM

[RightArmRapid]

Umesh yadav for india? Tino best in his return has looked lightning, cant say the same for his control though! I believe the young nz quick could be adam milne, i also believe james pattinson could be in with a shout and last but not least, the quickest of them all......Mr Fattus Cattus.

[RightArmRapid]

Blast the bird beat me to it. I guess he probably got injured and droppes about 7 mph. Isnt that what happens to all of these young hopefulls?

[uknsaunders]

Broad use to be able to bowl 85mph+, a long long time ago.

Doesn't Wahab Riaz bowl 85+?

[The_Bird]

Blast the bird beat me to it. I guess he probably got injured and droppes about 7 mph. Isnt that what happens to all of these young hopefulls?

Just Cricinfo'd him and he played some odi's this year, has a first class average of 47 as well lol

[Cover_Drive]

Yes The_Bird, it was indeed Adam Milne.

Thanks for that

Broad use to be able to bowl 85mph+, a long long time ago.

Doesn't Wahab Riaz bowl 85+?

Wahab Riaz bowls 85+ but he is a mediocre bowler. Very inconsistent and has no control when it comes to new ball. He was told by Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram to keep his wrist in position which he doesn't and his flaws prevail his strength and he controls to be hit and miss sort of bowler.

[The_Bird]

i remember watching this and thinking god this guy can bowl!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YIcyEdrFm0

[dhackett89]

james pattinson can touch 90 at times. Trent Boult for New Zealand looks pretty sharp. Dirk Nannes still get it through as well

Mohammed Amir as well!!!

[Cover_Drive]

i remember watching this and thinking god this guy can bowl!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YIcyEdrFm0

I had dinner with him during summer at NCA.

He has been selected for ODI leg for India's tour, he was earlier selected against Australia but never got any game.

His inswingers deteriorated as far I know. Lets hope he gets a game and prove his worth.

[The_Bird]

Can't remember the other guy who was at the other end, left armer I think. Both looked immense

[Cover_Drive]

Can't remember the other guy who was at the other end, left armer I think. Both looked immense

Jamshed Ahmed.

Three of five Anwar Ali's scalps were;

Cheteshwar Pujara, Rohit Sharma and Ravindra Jadeja

[The_Bird]

Jamshed Ahmed.
Three of five Anwar Ali's scalps were;
Cheteshwar Pujara, Rohit Sharma and Ravindra Jadeja

What happened then, injuries?

[Cover_Drive]

What happened then, injuries?

I remember his interview last year, he sounded quite demoralized and he played for PIA who are extremely vigilant over new comers and that too fast bowlers as they give there existing ones first nod (wrong choice at first place by Jamshed).

This year he did not play first class at all! So possibilites are;

1. Gave up cricket and started working somewhere as his family was dependent on him (most likely)
2. Injured
3. Not being selected.

First seems to be most likely as for a four day game players are paid under 20 GBP.

[Manormanic]

Bresan is really capable of 85 mph?

He was; whilst I think the Sky speed guns that put him at 91 a coupleof Summers ago were a bit of a joke, he was up around 86 in Australia last winter.  Whether he will ever be again is open to debate as the signs are that he has pushed that elbow further than it was ever supposed to go.

Steven Finn is a good bowler too! Its shame he is not getting much preference over Bresan/Board (or is me, but I understand there batting comes in play)

I can understand why he did not get preference for a while, as we was growing into his frame and learning his own game - batting possibly gave both B's a slight advantage when they did not bowl well, but I think it was the right decision to leave Finn out purely on form with the ball.  I doubt, going forward, that he will be anything other than the second pace bowler selected (behind Jimmikins).

A lot of bowlers give up pace for line/length, rather than keeping both because of Twenty20 to gain quick entry to national side.

Really?  I would have thought that express pace was the way to get into the big T20 competitions and national sides...

In short, I think it will take a while since world of cricket finds another Shoaib Akhtar or Brett Lee.

Both were fairly freakish because their long limbed, sprinting styles were quite different from the 90mph plus bowlers of yore.  Whether we'll see another...well, since they came on the scene we've also seen Malinga and Tait get up into the mid-90s...