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Batting: Understanding your own game
« on: November 20, 2012, 04:38:08 PM »

This, I hope, will eventually become the heading for an extra chapter in my batting book - but I still need to gather my own thoughts and (hopefully) be influenced by people on here first....

In real terms I am trying to ask the person being coached the difficult question: when you are out of form and don't know where the next run is coming from – what do you start from? You can’t rely on the coach when you are in the middle – just look at the recent malaise of English batting, I bet the coaches in the dressing room of Gooch, Flower and Thorpe could do a better job at the moment than Trott, Bell and Patel – but they are all retired!

The second question then becomes: do I know my game well enough to help myself?

To help answer this question we must think what does the expression “I know my game” mean? To me it means how you play with all the flourishes and excess removed – playing a simple defensive shot, or a simple work to leg – no risk just batting in its simplest forms. What do you guys think?

My issue is that when I have been coaching I have found that too many players experiment with their batting but frequently end up in a muddle trying too many different things, mainly because they don't understand the basis that they are starting from or why they are changing something.

This is multiplied when they are out of form – which perversely is the time when most people look to change their technique, making it more complicated, rather than simplifying it.

Some of the best players who really know their game understand about bad form are able to limit themselves and grind out some time at the crease until batting comes a bit more naturally. These as a cricket supporter are a whole load less frustrating to watch then the flamboyant “this is the way I play” kind of batsman, who rely on one shot to get them back in to form – but when it clicks again they are devastating.

So my first challenge is to ask how do you learn what your basic technique is? – Whether you are Shiv Chanderpaul, Mark Waugh or some bloke on the village green.

To help answer this question how about asking yourself:
When you are in the nets, what is your basic grip, stance and back lift?
As you are getting your eye in, what are the first few things you concentrate on getting right?
Then, and only then, can you ask yourself:
What you are trying to work on?
Why do you think you need to work on something?
Are you trying to correct a fault or try something new?
And how will any of the above help me become a better player

My view is that you can only change something when you know what you are starting from. What do you guys think?
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 04:52:22 PM »

I think it's an excellent area to look at. I know that I've generally only scored runs when I have gone out with the intention to defend and leave, and generally, if I get away with that, it builds my confidence up. Then I can start to open up a bit as I've got my eye in and my feet moving. You've seen me batting so you'd get why that would matter...

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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 04:55:41 PM »


top post buzz.

i think understanding your batting has a massive influence on how successfull you are. I think this would explain why batsman peak later than bowlers......
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 04:57:52 PM »

I would think that besides the technical aspects which are mentioned here, mental aspect is equally or sometimes becomes more important. There are players who are mentally tough enough to grind it out under pressure or when not in form.
I admire Steve Waugh for this quality.
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 05:02:31 PM »

Sir Geoff:


Tim2000s:
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 05:02:57 PM »

I'll throw a spanner in and so the whole concept of "form"  is BS. As adult batsman in club cricket we don't change day to day but other variables do. Our view of "form" is built on coincidence, dodgy pitches, good balls and bad luck. You are the same batsman in-form as out of form. The only thing that's changed is you haven't spent as much middle time. Roll up your sleeves and grind a few overs out or play a dirty innings slogging, either works as long as bat is on ball for a period of time.

What I'm saying is you don't change anything and get on with it. 95% of batsman get themselves out, not the bowler, so don't go looking for excuses.
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 05:06:03 PM »

My view is that you can only change something when you know what you are starting from.

I used to work in computers and that was always the base level (other than try switching in off and then on again - obviously) Too many people try to change too many things at once, when they should only try to change one at a time to see how it affects things. You have to be methodical. I'd also suggest that in a bad trot, being able to go back to the base level IE knowing what has worked in the past, is far more beneficial than trying something new. That doesn't mean that a small adjustment might not work wonders, but trying it when what you perceive to be your basic method isn't working (which could be just down to getting a run of 'unplayable' deliveries) is not the right time to assess it.
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 05:06:41 PM »

I will say technical changes are sometimes required if a batsman has problems with a certain ball or bowler or stepping up a level. However it should have nothing to do with form. If you scored runs before, you'll score them again.
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2012, 05:07:00 PM »

I'll throw a spanner in and so the whole concept of "form"  is BS. As adult batsman in club cricket we don't change day to day but other variables do. Our view of "form" is built on coincidence, dodgy pitches, good balls and bad luck. You are the same batsman in-form as out of form. The only thing that's changed is you haven't spent as much middle time. Roll up your sleeves and grind a few overs out or play a dirty innings slogging, either works as long as bat is on ball for a period of time.

What I'm saying is you don't change anything and get on with it. 95% of batsman get themselves out, not the bowler, so don't go looking for excuses.
I get your point, but I don't agree, when you are in form and confident batting doesn't feel the same as when you have got three 0's in a row and don't know where the next run is coming from.


I used to work in computers and that was always the base level (other than try switching in off and then on again - obviously) Too many people try to change too many things at once, when they should only try to change one at a time to see how it affects things. You have to be methodical. I'd also suggest that in a bad trot, being able to go back to the base level IE knowing what has worked in the past, is far more beneficial than trying something new. That doesn't mean that a small adjustment might not work wonders, but trying it when what you perceive to be your basic method isn't working (which could be just down to getting a run of 'unplayable' deliveries) is not the right time to assess it.
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this is what I totally subscribe to!
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2012, 05:10:37 PM »

it's exactly the same. It's like the lottery, what goes before isn't a guide to the future. Play each ball on it's merits, it's a new day. It says more about the individuals state of mind.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 05:11:36 PM »

All that says is that "form" is psychological and not physical. The question is how do you reboot your head?
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 05:13:37 PM »

The question is how do you reboot your head?
you go to the barn...
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 05:14:36 PM »

And get slow yorkers bowled at you....
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Re: Batting: Understanding your own game
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 05:16:03 PM »

you go to the barn...

where is this so called barn ?
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2012, 05:17:30 PM »

And get slow yorkers bowled at you....
pah - that is only to stop any premeditation.
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