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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #165 on: January 19, 2013, 09:14:54 AM »

Oh dear, I hate knee jerk reactions, but I wonder if there are a few players who need to gently walk away from the ODI scene, as they are just not good or consistant enough.

Patel
Kiewsetter
Morgan (and I'm a fan!)
Dernbach
Bresnan (I appreciate his rearguard today)

We must have options in these departments - (I appreciate Trott, Anderson and Swann are to come back) however, it would be lovely in NZ to see the following given a bot of a run out -

Bairstow (I know he's got somethng funky going on ATM)
Buttler
Taylor
Bopara (if he's normal again?)
Hales
Stokes
Coles
Borthwick
Harris
woakes given a run in the Bresnan role?

This is not picking names out of a hat, these are guys involved in the Lions set up and who may need to take a step up.




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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #166 on: January 19, 2013, 09:32:32 AM »

I wouldnt mind seeing a few of the young kids get a game. Especially Buttler and Bairstow. Id also like to see Root open with Cook, see how he does in his natural position.

Having said that Ive given up watching Englanf and switched over to the Big Bash final
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #167 on: January 19, 2013, 10:56:05 AM »

When are the Indian selectors going to admit they made a mistake with the Rahane selection?

His first class record is good, but he's been exposed as lacking the footwork for international cricket.

Replacing Sehwag with Rahane has hardly been successful. Although Sehwag's career is drawing to a close, he's still more feared and capable of winning a match of his own bat then Rahane.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #168 on: January 19, 2013, 11:07:08 AM »

Deeraj jadhav should have been the man but his time has past

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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #169 on: January 19, 2013, 12:29:35 PM »

feel embarrassd by our last 2 performances

also feel some sympathy for the team, I bet they just want to come home, looking forward to a series in NZ
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #170 on: January 19, 2013, 12:34:58 PM »

I think I'd get banned for putting what I thought about that performance on here
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #171 on: January 19, 2013, 12:37:04 PM »

feel embarrassd by our last 2 performances

also feel some sympathy for the team, I bet they just want to come home, looking forward to a series in NZ


I've not watched the game yet (still watching the third Aus vs SL ODI on record) BUT I feel that the current tours are just too long. I know myself that you just lose focus, lose that extra spark etc. I know they are pro's and I am the first one to usually say 'They are pro's so they should do their job' BUT I appreciate that it must just become mundane and boring when you are away for so long.

I'd like to see the likes of Kieswetter, Bresnan, Dernbach, Bopara just told 'thank you but good bye' and give the new generation the chance to play a few games and improve. Bringing some energy and that spark back to ODI's etc. I know Indian fans love ODI and T20's over Tests so they put more store by these games but I can't help but think that the English just look like a team that are thinking 'I really really don't want to be here'.

Sack off most of the ODI's and T20's in tours and focus on the real cricket, Test cricket!
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #172 on: January 19, 2013, 12:42:14 PM »

When are the Indian selectors going to admit they made a mistake with the Rahane selection?

His first class record is good, but he's been exposed as lacking the footwork for international cricket.

Replacing Sehwag with Rahane has hardly been successful. Although Sehwag's career is drawing to a close, he's still more feared and capable of winning a match of his own bat then Rahane.

Give the lad a chance, its not easy to get into Sehwag's shoes. If Rohit has got so many chances to prove himself (failing to do so on most of the occasion) I feel youngsters like Rahane should be given atleast a series or two to settle in.
As for foot work Sehwag didn't have one either ! (Not that I am comapring Shewag to Rahane)
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #173 on: January 19, 2013, 12:44:28 PM »


Sack off most of the ODI's and T20's in tours and focus on the real cricket, Test cricket!
What a stupid comment.

Go ask IVA Richards or Ricky Ponting if limited overs cricket isn't real cricket.

There's no world cups won playing Test cricket.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #174 on: January 19, 2013, 12:46:22 PM »

Give the lad a chance, its not easy to get into Sehwag's shoes. If Rohit has got so many chances to prove himself (failing to do so on most of the occasion) I feel youngsters like Rahane should be given atleast a series or two to settle in.
As for foot work Sehwag didn't have one either ! (Not that I am comapring Shewag to Rahane)
I'm all for giving players chances(I waited years for Robin Peterson to get recalled by the Proteas!)

But if Rahane's footwork can't get the job done in home conditions, how will be survive on bowling pitches around the world?
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #175 on: January 19, 2013, 12:56:16 PM »

Meanwhile Virat Kohli coming back into some form...some breathtaking shots from him today.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #176 on: January 19, 2013, 01:04:18 PM »

What a stupid comment.

Go ask IVA Richards or Ricky Ponting if limited overs cricket isn't real cricket.

There's no world cups won playing Test cricket.

Stupid to people who like ODI's/T20's more than Test's. How many players are there around that when put into test matches are just rubbish.. Reina for the indians is one (can't be bothered to list any more but there are loads). yes limited over cricket is big now due mainly to the money men wanting to cash in, more than the players actually wanting to play the game.

ODI's are still pretty good and I'd not like to see that go away but with T20's and tests there are just too many ODI's so they become stale.

If you put the focus on Test cricket, that being the real top level, big money earning areana and then just played a bolt on 3 ODI max series or something then that would be better.. when teams play 5/7 odi's it's just zzzzzzzzzzzz. I'd like to see England just rest our top players for tests and almost have a completely different ODI team. Really show that Test cricket is the top format and let teh likes of India love their ODI's/T20's but suck at Test cricket.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #177 on: January 19, 2013, 04:50:32 PM »

Its about time ODIs were taken out completely.

5 match test series
10 match 20/20 series with 2 matches played on the same day.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #178 on: January 19, 2013, 05:02:21 PM »

Like the idea. Id go with a 5test series with a 5t20 series played two days after each test at the same venue with a completely different squad.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #179 on: January 19, 2013, 05:05:48 PM »

Not sure about shed loads of T20 but defo like the idea of different squads. Make the test players highly paid and the top of the tree.
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