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[tim2000s]

We use A ie for bats pros would use but with bats with the tsi its B even thow the tsi makes no diffents to how the bat plays

Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.

[wayward_hayward]

Reading this thread has opened my eyes to butterfly stains. My GM Epic has a butterfly stain and was worried about the performance.

Are there any downsides to butterfly stains except the asthetics?

[Vulcan Cricket]

Just looks diffent and its bit stronger in my eyes

[wilkie113]

Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.

Grade A bat is surely just the rules that are made for the international/professional players bats that most bat company's abide by? As Dean said there bats are Grade A, which refers to the point that his pro's use the bats. The only bat's that are Grade B are the ones with the TSI in.

Adidas sticker there low end bats with a Grade A sticker, and I'm in no doubt they aren't grade one willow.

Either way this bat's a cannon, it does sound a bit hard but it flies, and hopefully as it opens up it'll get better

[Buzz]

Grade A, B and C is different from Grade 1, 2 and 3
Grade A etc refers to the laws of cricket and what bats are allowable at what levels

G1, 2, 3 etc refers to the cleanliness of the willow cleft face as frequently initially shown Wrights grading

[wilkie113]

I know that Buzz, that's what I was trying to say in my post, but you've hit the nail straight on the head with that lol.

[Vulcan Cricket]

Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.

are you trying to make me look like a right tit tim we no its not grade one willow look on js wrights web site were all the vulcan and choice timber comes from and it will tell about gradeing on there jesus worse than haveing kids on here some time lol

[Number4]

Grade A, B and C is different from Grade 1, 2 and 3
Grade A etc referes to the laws of cricket and what bats are allowable at what levels

G1, 2, 3 etc refers to the cleanliness of the willow cleft face as lead from Wrights.

True.. Now... But in the past grade A referred to the quality of the willow and as The_Bird was quoting off Warsops website they say "Grade A Timber" which to me means they are referring to the willow grading.

[tim2000s]

are you trying to make me look like a right tit tim we no its not grade one willow look on js wrights web site were all the vulcan and choice timber comes from and it will tell about gradeing on there jesus worse than haveing kids on here some time lol

I think the point we were making is that the statement on Warsop's site is dumb as it doesn't tie in with either the MCC or Wright's definition.

[trypewriter]

You see - when a butterfly flaps its wings, it really does start a hurricane!!! 

[Number4]

I think Tim has a Butterfly tramp stamp 

[kouservice]

Nice information, the FAQ section answers most of the question raised,
http://www.quantumcricket.com/willow.html

[Vulcan Cricket]

I think the point we were making is that the statement on Warsop's site is dumb as it doesn't tie in with either the MCC or Wright's definition.

tim I don't care what they put I don't sit there reading what other brand put . I just worry about vulcan cricket and choice willow if was to say what I felt about some things that are put on here I would be kicked off for saying it.  Why don't you ring up warsop speck to tony and have it out with him. Sorry to rant but that's life.  Dean

[Kulli]

tim I don't care what they put I don't sit there reading what other brand put . I just worry about vulcan cricket and choice willow if was to say what I felt about some things that are put on here I would be kicked off for saying it.  Why don't you ring up warsop speck to tony and have it out with him. Sorry to rant but that's life.  Dean

 

[wilkie113]

What's with the angry face dude?