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[Bulldog Cricket]

I think You have a bit of Shaun Taite about you Tushar. Was that you who bowled the guy out ? Great ball. Unorthodox actions are not coached out anymore in fact coaches are now looking for that in young players as they recognize that unorthodox means something different which potentially means wickets.

My advice would be work with the technique you have and just build on that.

[tushar sehgal]

I think You have a bit of Shaun Taite about you Tushar. Was that you who bowled the guy out ? Great ball. Unorthodox actions are not coached out anymore in fact coaches are now looking for that in young players as they recognize that unorthodox means something different which potentially means wickets.

My advice would be work with the technique you have and just build on that.

Thanks Kieron, yes that was me indeed. Unfortunately the guy who shot the video didn't get any of the inswing attempts in, I have been trying for a long time to get the ball to move in but has not happened in years till this net, action is a bit different for inswing for me. I do need be a bit more upright, i find i tend to do some things wrong when striving for pace which is always a problem in these nets for me.

[tushar sehgal]

That batsman needs some help

He is actually not that bad a batsman, doesn't look very good sometimes but has good hand and eyes. The ball he got out to was significantly down the legside and then came in/ swung out to take his leg stump...i had bowled a few of those afterwards most times people were trying to just let the ball go as a leg side wide for it to come in and hit them on their toes or stumps..

[Nickauger]

I'm definitely with Kieron on this one. Don't revert to type just because you think you should bowl with a different technique. As long as its replicable and doesn't hurt, and the outcome is good then stick with it. Why do you think Tait, Murali and Malinga are such world forces?

[Bulldog Cricket]

Thanks Kieron, yes that was me indeed. Unfortunately the guy who shot the video didn't get any of the inswing attempts in, I have been trying for a long time to get the ball to move in but has not happened in years till this net, action is a bit different for inswing for me. I do need be a bit more upright, i find i tend to do some things wrong when striving for pace which is always a problem in these nets for me.

Away swing to a right hander will always take more wickets, especially they higher standard you play so I wouldn't worry too much. I can only bowl in swing as I have a chest on action. I found against the top batsman in swing is just bread and butter and I got picked off at will so I had to develop something else as a variation which was the leg cutter. Perhaps you should try the off cutter as a variation. I think this is what Malinga does. Gives you another option that might be easier with your action than the in swinger

[tushar sehgal]

well nothing hurts, except for my knee which is a different matter, hve been bowling like this all this while..i would most likely try and get my front foot not so much across as it tends to trip me up once in a while..

thanks again everyone for the tips, comments and what i would call compliments

[i12breakfree]

I am part time bowler ..so no comments here
but you seem to have nice pace ...swinging with new ball is always a dangerous weapon as long as put in the right spot
Even i have bad knee problem - because of the weight i have gained over time - one thing that has helped is glucosamine chondroitin

[tushar sehgal]

Thanks Amit, my knee is more to do with something i did to it at start of last season. I played with it all season and am still able to play but next day or 2 I almost cannot move. Just got it x-rayed lets see what the doc says...

what is glucosamine chondroitin? what does it do...I can't tell you how much it hurts today

[CrickFreak]

I shared this with Chad over the weekend but here it is for everyone else to criticize...any faults/improvements to be made. Please keep in mind that we don't really have a run-up area indoors but where in the bowling action can improvements be made, I noticed my non-bowling arm needs to be a tad bit higher to start (I am in the blue India shirt)

NSCA Indoor Training - March 2013

Looks like your head and upper body is bent too much away from the batsman (Pause at 5 to see what i mean). Would be more effective if you were much upright at the time of release, like the guy in maroon shirt. Good out swingers though.

[i12breakfree]

Thanks Amit, my knee is more to do with something i did to it at start of last season. I played with it all season and am still able to play but next day or 2 I almost cannot move. Just got it x-rayed lets see what the doc says...

what is glucosamine chondroitin? what does it do...I can't tell you how much it hurts today

Glucosamine is a basic building block for cartilage, synovial fluid and other connective tissue. It is needed for healthy structure and function of joints for optimum mobility.

Chondroitin Sulfate protects existing cartilage and serves as a building block for healthy new cartilage.

Most of the vitamin stores / pharmacy stores carry it

[Cys1]

"With your body moving as it is and the way your arm is following, you are essentially generating outswing through your action and not through the tools that Dale Steyn uses. If you can get yourself upright and aligned, those may be much more use."

Tim, this is very true and you have given some great advice here. His action is really geared towards bowling out swing which is not a bad thing at all. The only problem is that he will not be extracting maximum bounce from the wicket, bowling the straight one or even I swinger will be very difficult and he will be swinging the ball out of the hand and not getting later swing.

As a seam bowler yourself, what would you advize he do to adjust his action without changing it too dramatically? Getting a bit mre upright at delivery and possible opening up a bit with that front leg?

[tim2000s]

As a seam bowler yourself, what would you advize he do to adjust his action without changing it too dramatically? Getting a bit mre upright at delivery and possible opening up a bit with that front leg?

It's a tricky one really. I was always coached into "throwing my front arm up and pulling it down" and staying upright, as falling over resulted in balls going either way. Alignment can often be fixed just by running in straighter.

As Kieron says though, if the action is working, then Tush doesn't necessarily need to do anything. Even Banana away swing flummoxes a batsman at amateur levels of cricket. Late swing or seam usually means you miss the edge most times because the batsman can't get near it.

[Kulli]

a) due to a short run up I am coming in an angle which takes me across the stumps, i run in bowl a lot straighter otherwise but I am sure there are still issues with the alignment.

Can I ask why?

[Cys1]

He might have to change a bit too much if he adjusted. I suppose because he closes himself up a bit at the crease he had to develop the slingy action to generate away swing.
I suppose boomerang swing could also be effective. Just thought he might like to be able to generate what type of swing he wants to bowl according the batsman and conditions.

[tim2000s]

He might have to change a bit too much if he adjusted. I suppose because he closes himself up a bit at the crease he had to develop the slingy action to generate away swing.
I suppose boomerang swing could also be effective. Just thought he might like to be able to generate what type of swing he wants to bowl according the batsman and conditions.

Given that the away swing is already there, using the seam to generate a cutter or learning how to bowl an off cutter may be more effective and require less fundamental change. Also, use of intelligent slower balls may also add variation that doesn't require this.