Topic: fitness punishment for 13 to 16 year olds. (Read 5814 times)

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:43:27 PM »

My previous experiences of coaching and coaching coaches (say that three times fast...) as a tutor is that we always tried to emphasise the clich� - the best teacher of the game is the game itself.

Never using exercise as a punishment; use guided discovery - what do they think they've done wrong? Why are you disappointed in them? What do they feel are the expectations when they attend sessions?

Conditioning can be fun through warm ups, main activities (i.e. the focus of your particular session) and small-sided conditioned games - ensure that he focus is on their learning, not punishing them. Guide them through the learning processes (why are we doing this? How is this activity relevant in a game situation?) Focus on whole-part-whole learning and get continued feedback from them; that way, they will feel they have input into sessions and work accordingly - you should find behaviour improving.

Make the game enjoyable. Interact with them re; learning and make the sessions hard work, but fun. Create an environment that challenges them all through small-sided activities and all-inclusive sessions.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:54:24 PM »

Tell their Mums! Haha the only person I ever really feared being told off by was my Mum! Never misbehaved in cricket practice mind you only French and Maths when boredom set in

Presumably the parents are paying good money so their children can attend coaching and my bet is that they won't be best pleased to find out that young Johnny has been a cheeky little chappy

This might help separate those children who really want to be there from those who don't

Failing that clip them round the ear, it worked for Cloughy . . . . . . .

Jagminder · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:09:36 PM »

Every single catch we dropped as kids - we were to run 800m for that.
it worked in indian settings in 1990s - kids these days are too soft.

I played few ugly slogs in Dec 1997 nets and my coach didn't let me bat till March 1998 in the nets.
Too tough - yeah but I learned the lesson of self control and patience.
Cricket aside - All that has taught me there is no second chance in life - get it right the first time.
I played cricket even my parents wanted me to go into Wrestling - I choose cricket (or cricket choose me

) - It was something I wanted to do - forget about boredom and all these kids are having. Had I told my parents that I have not batted (I was down 1 bat and left arm bowl) for last three months - they would have made drop it right away.
Played U-15,U-17 districts and State - thanks to coaches.

Jag.

Nickauger · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:17:55 PM »

Quote from: Jagminder on March 08, 2013, 06:09:36 PM

Every single catch we dropped as kids - we were to run 800m for that.
it worked in indian settings in 1990s - kids these days are too soft.

I played few ugly slogs in Dec 1997 nets and my coach didn't let me bat till March 1998 in the nets.
Too tough - yeah but I learned the lesson of self control and patience.
Cricket aside - All that has taught me there is no second chance in life - get it right the first time.
I played cricket even my parents wanted me to go into Wrestling - I choose cricket (or cricket choose me ) - It was something I wanted to do - forget about boredom and all these kids are having. Had I told my parents that I have not batted (I was down 1 bat and left arm bowl) for last three months - they would have made drop it right away.
Played U-15,U-17 districts and State - thanks to coaches.

Jag.

B*******S!

Jagminder · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:20:58 PM »

Quote from: Nickauger on March 08, 2013, 06:17:55 PM

B*******S!

Lol really - u think so.

the little ripper · « **Reply #20 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:32:48 PM »

do slip catches in a group and try and get them to get to 20/30 without dropping one, and every time they do start again and vary difficulty hard/soft wide/straight etc. Keep them working hard whilst also a frustrating punishment when there so close and have to start again.

Nickauger · « **Reply #21 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:37:50 PM »

Quote from: Jagminder on March 08, 2013, 06:20:58 PM

Lol really - u think so.

I completely do. You didn't make mistakes because you were afraid to do so! How is that an effective learning environment!

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #22 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:41:07 PM »

Quote from: Nickauger on March 08, 2013, 06:37:50 PM

I completely do. You didn't make mistakes because you were afraid to do so! How is that an effective learning environment!

I'd be honest Nick the environment in India back in the day was and probably still is miles different from UK, end results wanted might be similar (money/fame/good life etc) but motivation and paths are very different.

Nickauger · « **Reply #23 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:46:34 PM »

I agree mate, but there's a very good reason why things are different now to the way they were back in the day!

Jagminder · « **Reply #24 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:50:09 PM »

We were given chances to swing our heart out but in a given time (last 3 mins of the net).
Structured approach of building an inning - leave defend early on - then push around - then drive and punch -- so on to last 3 mins.

800m for a dropped catch - it has helped - my worst season catching is 2008 where I dropped 2 catches whole season (whatever blah level of club cricket here in US). its around 25-30 games a year
On average - a dropped catch a season I have gone so far - its embedded in sub-conscious to treat catch as a big deal.
Different times - different approach. (thats why I said 1990s indian settings).
game has evolved - so should be coaching techniques. I was sharing my experience - not trying to suggest thats how it should be done.

Jag.

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #25 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:51:51 PM »

Quote from: Nickauger on March 08, 2013, 06:46:34 PM

I agree mate, but there's a very good reason why things are different now to the way they were back in the day!

I agree

Fezballoh · « **Reply #26 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:02:24 PM »

13 - 16 year old are tough to coach. I've had a little experience with these age groups helping run our U13 side and skippering our 3rd XI for two seasons. Leonie, who covered for you while you were away? Was it someone who has experience of coaching kids already? This age range are always going to act up if they get an opportunity. Is it possible that your replacement wasn't up to the job?

You said yourself they are a little precocious but I get the impression that you don't have the same problems as your replacement did. If you're upset that they acted up while you were away then I would have to agree with others that you'd be better off explaining to them that they have let you down rather than just beasting them. I can see how it would be embarassing having someone think that they're like that all the time and that you're in charge of a mob! Again, maybe you're a better coach than the person who said that they were bad kids.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:08:30 PM »

See, little brats playing up is what really puts me off coaching groups of them. Coaching individuals is fine as they want to learn etc. Coaching groups where the mess about.. sod that.

Good luck

Fezballoh · « **Reply #28 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:12:59 PM »

Thanks for your help in this matter.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Fezballoh on March 08, 2013, 07:12:59 PM

Thanks for your help in this matter.

Nips

anytime

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