Topic: Me bowling - Any advice appreciated! (Read 6527 times)

Chad · « **on:** March 11, 2013, 05:47:55 PM »

Hey guys, just a video of me bowling. (I'm the guy in red and my brother is the leftie in white)


Bowling

Anyone got any tips on how to improve, or anything I am doing wrong? The thing which I found was that despite changing my action and way I deliver the ball to get more away movement in the air and off the pitch, I am still bowling chest on, which there is nothing wrong with, and I don't think I have a mixed action, although I could be wrong! I have been told by the uni coach that I need to rotate a little more on my follow through to try gain that extra yard of pace, later swing and also so I don't follow through and block the umpire's view, preventing any LBW decisions. I clearly forgot about it in this video though!

Also, if anyone can offer advice on the brother, that would be great too! I try coach him a little here and there, but I don't really know a HUGE amount about coaching anything, so any help would be appreciated!

It is quite interesting that we used to have very similar actions, but watching some of his bowling, it seems he has had a more of a side on approach!

Thanks!

Chad

PS. Any tips on camera angles which work the best?

Nickauger · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:57:18 PM »

I think, and without a front on angle, its only a hunch but your timing looks a little bit off. You seem to have almost planted your front foot before pulling your arm round when in fact driving your front leg should assist in pulling your arm over.

Nickauger · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:59:44 PM »

Scrap that, the rest look fine. You do definitely fall over though and your head looks to drop to the off side.

wilkie113 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:02:18 PM »

My advice is give up and bowl left handed mate

tim2000s · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:20:27 PM »

Your brother isn't bowling side on, he's running in at an angle, chucking his front arm up and because he is pointing slightly towards fine leg v the leftie, looking down the arm, but he's bowling mixed/front on as opposed to you who are very square.

Burdy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:39:23 PM »

Im no bowling coach, but there does seem a lack of usage from your front arm. Would recommend having a read of ian ponts bowling books.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:47:04 PM »

Quote from: Burdy on March 11, 2013, 06:39:23 PM

Im no bowling coach, but there does seem a lack of usage from your front arm. Would recommend having a read of ian ponts bowling books.

agree, need to get the left arm up a bit. You can't charge bowlers action completely to it being bolt upright but a bit more would help with your control. You look very front-on as well. Everyone is different but being near side on would help.

19reading87 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:24:01 PM »

I like the fact the bloke hitting the balls at the keeper isn't getting them anywhere near him....

Chad · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:13:58 PM »

Thanks for the advice guys, especially you Wilkie... Now get back to making my soft pockets!

Will try work on the things you all mentioned, and maybe being a little more side on will aid in stopping me from falling over and keeping my head up.

LDifa · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:23:48 PM »

The guy missing the keeper looks like he is using a Laver as well.

With regards to the bowling, it looks like you are trying to bowl too fast! Possibly shorten your run up a bit, find a rythymn and work towards a very strong left arm, that is your driving force, a really good strong leading arm leads your action through.

Good luck with it as it isn't easy, has your club got a good coach, or a pro who is a bowler?

Chad · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:36:55 PM »

Quote from: LDifa on March 11, 2013, 09:23:48 PM

The guy missing the keeper looks like he is using a Laver as well.

With regards to the bowling, it looks like you are trying to bowl too fast! Possibly shorten your run up a bit, find a rythymn and work towards a very strong left arm, that is your driving force, a really good strong leading arm leads your action through.

Good luck with it as it isn't easy, has your club got a good coach, or a pro who is a bowler?

If I was trying to bowl too fast, the left arm would always be coming up higher!

I just find I lose my line when I raise my arm too high, and most importantly, my swing. I'm not a tall guy, around 5'8-5'9, so my swing is all I have, no point in sacrificing that for extra pace! Although I am still trying new things, and want to improve my action and fitness so I can bowl 10 overs on the trott no problem and then go out to bat and still run hard for those singles.

I guess pulling my arm from slightly higher up will help in the long run once I have mastered it! We do have coaches, but I never really tend to get huge amounts of advice from them, and we used to have a pro who was a bowler, but he didn't really help much either! I mostly read up on these things, and watch how other people bowl, but there is only so much you can teach yourself!

SillyShilly · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:54:02 PM »

one thing i picked up on, you bowl from all over the crease and rarely get close to the umpires end stumps. If you are a bowler of swing you want to be consistent in where you are landing on the crease as you will have more control over the swing - if you bowl very wide of the crease there is more chance you will over-compensate and push it down leg etc. Hope you catch the drift of what im saying. Also, you want to be directing all of your momentum towards the batsmen - bowl wide of the crease and that momentum is going anywhere but the batsmen - think of it as tunnel vision, everything heading towards the batsmen.
I am also a great believer that fast bowlers get a lot of pace from their glutes - work hard on leg strength and that will help you push your leg through on the crease and maybe generate a little more pace.
In my experience though - a decent swing bowler at 70mph causes a lot more trouble than a straight up and downer at 75mph, work on controlling you swing and consistently delivering from the same point of release - you can use cones to help you with this.

LDifa · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2013, 11:38:49 PM »

I agree with SillyShilly regarding pace and swing, we have a couple of guys who just make the ball bend in and out, wrist Position, seam position and follow through all help.

Where are you based? If people at your club can't help, a local county ground will have top notch coaching available, at Lancs its �34 for an hour of one on one coaching and I have had a few sessions, it has been brilliant for me, a couple of sessions then practice and maybe have another one or two.

I really can't recommend it highly enough, plus as you are a keen learner, you will love it.

Chad · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2013, 11:47:49 PM »

Quote from: LDifa on March 11, 2013, 11:38:49 PM

I agree with SillyShilly regarding pace and swing, we have a couple of guys who just make the ball bend in and out, wrist Position, seam position and follow through all help.

Where are you based? If people at your club can't help, a local county ground will have top notch coaching available, at Lancs its �34 for an hour of one on one coaching and I have had a few sessions, it has been brilliant for me, a couple of sessions then practice and maybe have another one or two.

I really can't recommend it highly enough, plus as you are a keen learner, you will love it.

Glasgow.

Yeah, I think I get it around 60-65 and swing it both ways, although the inswinger is noticeably slower...

I would love to be able to swing it at 70 mph, as that's more than enough to trouble most batsmen! I would also love some one on one coaching, but unfortunately, cricket isn't quite nearly as popular here as it is down south and there aren't as many coaches! I will try get a better camera angle, as it is the swing which gets me wickets more than anything else, but most of the time, you can't see the ball at this angle!

procricket · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2013, 11:49:39 PM »

Sack the keeper coach what is he doing

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