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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1530 on: August 21, 2013, 02:12:45 PM »

Woakes is back, floodgates open....
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1531 on: August 21, 2013, 02:15:20 PM »

Woakes is back, floodgates open....

Maiden over. Whoopee!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1532 on: August 21, 2013, 02:18:44 PM »

Maiden over. Whoopee!

that's a bonus, let's hope he can back it up.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1533 on: August 21, 2013, 02:21:23 PM »

I'd love to know why we're playing 2 spinners!
Woakes seems to have a little more pace these days?
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1534 on: August 21, 2013, 02:21:56 PM »

Woakes seems to have a little more pace these days?

Saw him bowl at Taunton this year - pretty rapid

that's a bonus, let's hope he can back it up.

Two in a row now - He's on a roll!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1535 on: August 21, 2013, 02:27:51 PM »

Watson back on strike and the gates open
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1536 on: August 21, 2013, 02:29:18 PM »

Watson back on strike and the gates open
What's your problem with Woakes?
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1537 on: August 21, 2013, 04:16:44 PM »

Feel a bit sorry for Kerrigan as this looks like such a flat wicket. The fact that Watson has been able to just plant his feet all day with no issues about a moving ball proves that.

You can't bowl short at any level mind so maybe the gulf from Div 2 to Test level is too much for Kerrigan? I'd suggest that Panesar would be getting nothing out of this wicket as well.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1538 on: August 21, 2013, 04:21:23 PM »

With regards to Bresnan 'not moving the ball much'.

Bresnan is a hit the pitch bowler. He bowls wide on the crease, angling the ball in and straightening the ball bring the keeper/slips into play.

Woakes is no way comparable to Bresnan.

Woakes is a pitch up bowler. With no pace to push anyone back. And most importantly zero movement.

Stokes bowls a very similar style to Bresnan.

Dare I say it, unless Woakes learns to swing it, he won't be playing another Test anytime soon.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1539 on: August 21, 2013, 04:23:00 PM »

Feel a bit sorry for Kerrigan as this looks like such a flat wicket. The fact that Watson has been able to just plant his feet all day with no issues about a moving ball proves that.

You can't bowl short at any level mind so maybe the gulf from Div 2 to Test level is too much for Kerrigan? I'd suggest that Panesar would be getting nothing out of this wicket as well.

I can't see him bowl as I'm following it on the BBC website but is he bowling loop and then flat. I watched some highlights of him bowling for Lancs and he seems to get a lot of wickets tossing it up slow. You can't do that at Test cricket and I imagine nerves just make it worse. He just didn't seem to get a lot of action on the ball unlike Monty and Swan.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1540 on: August 21, 2013, 04:25:56 PM »

I feel for Kerrigan when he's pitched it up he looks ok just nerves have got the better of him and his figures reflect that, I also think his pace has been a little too slow for the wicket when you compare it to swannys who hasn't bowled his best either

Woakes has bowled ok I like the fact he bowls stump to stump and tries to hit off McGrath never did loads with the ball either give them both a chance
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1541 on: August 21, 2013, 04:28:58 PM »

Thinking about it they should of played Samit as the 3rd spinner/number 6 and then played Tremmers. Woakes and Stokes could of both played as a 4th seamer if they didn't fancy Samit.

Not sure what's wrong with Root bowling a few overs.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1542 on: August 21, 2013, 04:30:08 PM »

So far Kerrigan looks like a rabbit caught in a set of headlights. He played on the pitch opposite to me last month at Ormskirk, but sadly he's dishing up the type of bowling that was being delivered on the pitch I was playing on. I hope he's better than this or its going to be a brief test career.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1543 on: August 21, 2013, 04:34:07 PM »

Kerrigan is very highly rated by some good judges - and by that I mean quality players bating against him in the Championship, as well as his coaches at Lancs, who were happy for Gary Keedy to walk away to keep him.  But I do wonder whether his figures are possibly a little inflated - a year playing on a ground that should not have been used for first class cricket, a reasonable return buoyed by cheap wickets in run chases and a season in division two might make him look a better bet than he is.  Either way, as with Woakes, you can see why this was the time to have a look and see - after all, if you can't do it on a featherbed when the Ashes are over, when can you?
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1544 on: August 21, 2013, 04:53:18 PM »

Kerrigan looks pretty ordinary so far. The beamer to Smith was a pearler... Don't mind the odd loose ball if you're giving it a rip but he doesn't according to the rev counter. I bet Monty is feeling a lot better about himself after today! :D

Having said that, this game is a good opportunity for England to try a few players out.
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