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a proposed new format for future odi's
« on: August 26, 2013, 02:43:09 PM »

this may just be me. but im gonna put my thoughts on this out there anyway. shoot me down if you so wish..

not a fan of odi's at moment.
maybe because they are false, they are manipulated to create entertainment out of the game.
maybe its because they are nothing like what i play in on a Saturday.

or maybe it is my thinking after watching yesterday ashes game. mainly Englands last innings. it felt like a li.tied overs game. it felt like the games i play in on a Saturday. it was exciting. it was nerve jangling. and most iimportantly it was entertaining.

so here my proposal.

no bowling restrictions. if Harris can bowl 25overs. let him. and stop batsmen merely seeing the best bowlers off.
no fielding.restrictions/powerplays. pieterson couldn't smash sixes as men was on every boundary. so he had to use his head. let the captain shove fielders where he wishes.
no leg side wide. if you can leg glance it. its a legitimate delivery
play in whites! if its a day game and starts early enough. then red ball and white clothing. look better and more traditional.
day/nights can use a pink ball.



i just think uf you get rid off all the dat rules that are meant to bring entertainment. then it will be more entertaining. yesterday test chase was better than any odi I've watched for sometime(have not watched them all)
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 03:50:02 PM »

this may just be me. but im gonna put my thoughts on this out there anyway. shoot me down if you so wish..

not a fan of odi's at moment.
maybe because they are false, they are manipulated to create entertainment out of the game.
maybe its because they are nothing like what i play in on a Saturday.

or maybe it is my thinking after watching yesterday ashes game. mainly Englands last innings. it felt like a li.tied overs game. it felt like the games i play in on a Saturday. it was exciting. it was nerve jangling. and most iimportantly it was entertaining.

so here my proposal.

no bowling restrictions. if Harris can bowl 25overs. let him. and stop batsmen merely seeing the best bowlers off.
no fielding.restrictions/powerplays. pieterson couldn't smash sixes as men was on every boundary. so he had to use his head. let the captain shove fielders where he wishes.
no leg side wide. if you can leg glance it. its a legitimate delivery
play in whites! if its a day game and starts early enough. then red ball and white clothing. look better and more traditional.
day/nights can use a pink ball.



i just think uf you get rid off all the dat rules that are meant to bring entertainment. then it will be more entertaining. yesterday test chase was better than any odi I've watched for sometime(have not watched them all)

Is that not just test cricket?
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 03:55:56 PM »

i didn't think id actually have to put it. but the first reply shows i should have.



obviously im still proposing the game stays to a limit of say 50 overs and one innings each.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 03:57:53 PM »

Well seeing as you have just put the rules of test cricket down, then perhaps you should have clarified. Explain how these rules would improve the game. It will just end up with far less runs being scored in 50 overs. That sure would be more exciting  :-[ Seems a bit stupid to me!
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 04:03:35 PM »

I think there should be 2 innings of 25 overs per side so a "test match" one day

We have played this twice and I tell you what it is great fun plus you get 2 bites
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 04:06:35 PM »

The recent tweaks to limited overs are the reason cricket is ever so popular and accessible to all. Once upon a time limited overs game wouldn't have been far from what you have described but there are reasons why it all changed or evolved to be more precise.
Not everyone is traditional and it shouldn't stop them from enjoying the game
 It is the only way forward.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 04:13:56 PM »

It has been mentioned before but the best ODI's in my opinion is where it is a fair contest between bat and ball. They have tried a couple of tweaks to give the bowlers a fairer crack (bouncer rule, 2 new balls etc.) but I think the authorities wrongly believe lots of runs = entertainment. Simply play on wickets that give the bowlers a chance rather than having to come up with a million variations just to stop the slog over the top.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 04:14:22 PM »

i suppose some people think constant six hitting with little worry of being caught is exciting.


me personally prefer to see a batsmen have to think about maneuvering the ball about to up the run rate.

as said England chasing in the last innings of the 5th test was exciting. and it was not manufactured by rules and field restrictions.

does more runs make a better game? not to me it doesn't.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 04:30:37 PM »

OP wants more boring ODI's   :D

Yesterday it was a wise decision to called it off because fielders on Boundryline were having no clue wats happening in the circle infact not spotting the ball.... i recalled Eng vs Pak in Karachi Test... where Moin Khan complained but Steve Bucknor didnt listened :)

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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 04:43:57 PM »

Maybe new rules for test match cricket?
Changing to white ball and coloured kit after a certain time? That way games won't be ending at silly early times because of "bad light"
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 08:52:17 PM »

It will just end up with far less runs being scored in 50 overs. That sure would be more exciting  :-[ Seems a bit stupid to me!

counterintuitive maybe, but right.  Think about it - even when Australia and South Africa were sharing 860, it was never that entertaining because the ball was little more than a golf ball on a tee for John Daly to hit and sixes get boring after a while if you know that the bowler has little hope, however skilfully he may bowl, of preventing them.  The best and most exciting one dayers are the ones where sixes elicit a gasp, good bowlers are played out and 100 is a matchwinning innings rather than a tardy strike rate.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 08:56:10 PM »

I think there should be 2 innings of 25 overs per side so a "test match" one day

We have played this twice and I tell you what it is great fun plus you get 2 bites

Played this a couple of times myself. Always comes down to the first innings as once you have a lead, it is easy to maintain it.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2013, 09:26:57 PM »

counterintuitive maybe, but right.  Think about it - even when Australia and South Africa were sharing 860, it was never that entertaining because the ball was little more than a golf ball on a tee for John Daly to hit and sixes get boring after a while if you know that the bowler has little hope, however skilfully he may bowl, of preventing them.  The best and most exciting one dayers are the ones where sixes elicit a gasp, good bowlers are played out and 100 is a matchwinning innings rather than a tardy strike rate.

OK I agree, but take away the leg side wide rule, and if a team gets too close to winning 'hell, we'll just throw it down the leg side and pack the leg side field'. No fielding restrictions, 'we'll just put every-one on the boundary and stop you from scoring'. No restrictions on bowlers, 'we'll pick 8 batsman and 3 bowlers, then it won't matter if we lose a hat full of wickets'

The answer is to spice up the pitches, not change the rules!
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 09:28:33 PM »

No offence to the OP but we already have test cricket to cater all the rules he has mentioned ( apart from it's being 50 overs.)

No point bringing 50 overs cricket to look like test cricket because there are hell of a lot of people who enjoy the 50 over game as it is.

My opinion is , don't fix if it ain't broken.
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Re: a proposed new format for future odi's
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 09:38:51 PM »

No offence to the OP but we already have test cricket to cater all the rules he has mentioned ( apart from it's being 50 overs.)

No point bringing 50 overs cricket to look like test cricket because there are hell of a lot of people who enjoy the 50 over game as it is.

My opinion is , don't fix if it ain't broken.

Just get rid of all the stupid rules at the amateur level. No restrictions on bowlers, fielders etc. id even say getnridmofmthe rigid 40/45/50/55 overs a side and just have 100 overs a game and first team can bat up to 60 overs. Only rule would be if you bat longer than 45 overs first up you'd get less pts for drawing the game than the oppo ( ie to stop teams just batting all day and hoping the oppo gift their wickets away slogging ).  Bring back the bonus for drawing and force pure batting teams down the league where they deserve
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