Topic: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction (Read 13266 times)

Giraffe208 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2013, 04:49:37 PM »

Never played there myself but playing at OE's, our ground isn't the biggest. In addition, in the Birmingham League, Harborne Cricket club is like playing on a junior pitch it's ridiculous. I would be interested to see who made this decision? Would it be Chris Marsh? I would be very surprised if this is the case as I have a lot of time for Chris.

Very bizarre indeed

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2013, 05:16:41 PM »

Small grounds are crap to play at as they just breed sluggers but of they were deemed acceptable at the start then the league should leave them alone

Byo · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2013, 05:38:56 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on September 06, 2013, 05:16:41 PM

Small grounds are crap to play at as they just breed sluggers but of they were deemed acceptable at the start then the league should leave them alone

Total rubbish!! We play at a small ground and has been voted the best ground in the league 2 years on the trot....

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2013, 05:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Byo on September 06, 2013, 05:38:56 PM

Total rubbish!! We play at a small ground and has been voted the best ground in the league 2 years on the trot....

Total rubbish in your opinion. We are all allowed our own fella. I'm yet to play a team with a small ground who haven't just got a load of hitters. Also I didn't say they weren't nice grounds as far as wickets go! In fact they are usually great tracks as it plays to their strength.

wilkie113 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2013, 06:02:16 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on September 06, 2013, 05:58:07 PM

Total rubbish in your opinion. We are all allowed our own fella. I'm yet to play a team with a small ground who haven't just got a load of hitters. Also I didn't say they weren't nice grounds as far as wickets go! In fact they are usually great tracks as it plays to their strength.

Surely if they all want to be hitters then who re you to say that it's rubbish playing there? Lol. Surely it's to your advantage if they are a load of hitters. A small ground is the same for both sides. Surely playing on a small ground is to your advantage as well as the opposition?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2013, 06:06:25 PM »

Quote from: wilkie113 on September 06, 2013, 06:02:16 PM

Surely if they all want to be hitters then who re you to say that it's rubbish playing there? Lol. Surely it's to your advantage if they are a load of hitters. A small ground is the same for both sides. Surely playing on a small ground is to your advantage as well as the opposition?

I'm yet to play in an enjoyable game on a small ground, lots of runs scored yes but mainly just big slogs through the line. Birth sides do it as you say but people I speak to (unless they like just smashing it) would rather play on bigger outfields that stop people just biffing it. Each to their own though, I just said they are crap to play at and it's personal opinion, as his his. I'm not saying his opinion is wrong.

beaver5 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2013, 06:52:06 PM »

This sounds very fishy to me! I played for Barnard's Green for years so know just how the Worcester League make up their own rules as they go along. Different entry rules for different divisions, can't get promoted unless you have a second team, overs and bowling restrictions vary dependant on division and divisions re-jigged almost every year. Not played at Dominies ground but there are a number of teams with very small grounds in the league. Anyway how does it make any difference as everyone gets the same chance to hit boundaries. Only thing I can think of is higher scores = more bonus points, but 200 points, that's a joke! Must be some other reason they not letting on about.

Blazer · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2013, 07:02:46 PM »

I know someone who is part of the Worcs league management and will find out more tomorrow if I meet him.

100 not out · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2013, 07:33:36 PM »

Quote from: wilkie113 on September 06, 2013, 06:02:16 PM

Surely if they all want to be hitters then who re you to say that it's rubbish playing there? Lol. Surely it's to your advantage if they are a load of hitters. A small ground is the same for both sides. Surely playing on a small ground is to your advantage as well as the opposition?

I agree Wilkie, look at it like this

Most leagues have batting points for scoring a certain amount of runs
If you play all home games on a small ground then it may be argued that you have an unfair advantage in trying to score bonus batting points.

I personally love em, less running to do.

kenbriooo · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2013, 07:59:10 PM »

I worked out a few seasons ago with the help of google earth that the teams with the smallest grounds in our league had the highest batting points. There wasn't many points in it to be fair so 200 point deduction does seen ludicrous!

Johnny · « **Reply #25 on:** September 06, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »

Smaller grounds breeds cannier bowlers and captains.

If you're not good enough to adapt your game (as a batsmen, bowler or captain) then it's your problem, not the grounds

wilkie113 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 06, 2013, 09:24:18 PM »

Quote from: 100 not out on September 06, 2013, 07:33:36 PM

I agree Wilkie, look at it like this

Most leagues have batting points for scoring a certain amount of runs
If you play all home games on a small ground then it may be argued that you have an unfair advantage in trying to score bonus batting points.

I personally love em, less running to do.

Less running is always, always a winner!

Kez · « **Reply #27 on:** September 06, 2013, 09:56:42 PM »

I like small grounds they usually have more character than bigger grounds.
And the WDGCC ground isn't actually that small- admitted it wasn't that big square but straight was a good distance hit.

It isn't really about the size of the ground its just the odd decision with three games left WDGCC are faced with a 200pt deduction out of nowhere.

Dan W · « **Reply #28 on:** September 06, 2013, 09:58:51 PM »

Do they need any players??

Giraffe208 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 07, 2013, 07:43:45 PM »

Having spoken to a few people about this today I have heard some different views as to the reason to the 200 point deduction. The size of the ground does not appear to be the sole reason for this deduction. Dominies were promoted last year under the proviso that they improved certain aspects of their ground by this time of the year. So essentially they had about 12 months to make the desired improvements. I am not sure what those improvements were meant to be but this seems to be the real reason for the deduction.

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