Topic: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction (Read 13269 times)

Timed-To-Perfection · « **Reply #30 on:** September 07, 2013, 08:47:04 PM »

Having played there myself in a league game this surprised me! Both teams have the same advantages and disadvantages from playing on the same pitch, and 200 points is too extreme!

beaver5 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 07, 2013, 09:08:30 PM »

I see they got hammered today. Hardly surprising considering what the league have just handed out to them.

Blazer · « **Reply #32 on:** September 08, 2013, 06:43:06 AM »

Quote from: Giraffe208 on September 07, 2013, 07:43:45 PM

Having spoken to a few people about this today I have heard some different views as to the reason to the 200 point deduction. The size of the ground does not appear to be the sole reason for this deduction. Dominies were promoted last year under the proviso that they improved certain aspects of their ground by this time of the year. So essentially they had about 12 months to make the desired improvements. I am not sure what those improvements were meant to be but this seems to be the real reason for the deduction.

They were supposed to put some work into the improving changing room facilities and start preparing the neighbouring fields for next year. They met their first deadline on April 1st , but didn't do further work before September 1st which is why the late points deduction and relegation.

mattcoll12491 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 08, 2013, 07:48:32 AM »

I've just found this

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/10660624.Relegation_threat_for_Worcester_s_Dominies_and_Guild_cricketers/?ref=nt

scragend · « **Reply #34 on:** September 14, 2013, 10:17:08 PM »

Quote from: mattcoll12491 on September 08, 2013, 07:48:32 AM

I've just found this

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/10660624.Relegation_threat_for_Worcester_s_Dominies_and_Guild_cricketers/?ref=nt

It's harsh, but the article suggests that it hasn't exactly come out of the blue.

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Dominies chairman Ian Wilks said: �I admit that we signed the document last season, but all of our lads are devastated with the situation.

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I had to sign a contract with the league along the lines of if the Cinderella Ground wasn�t ready for next season, we would be deducted 200 points.

Jaffa · « **Reply #35 on:** September 15, 2013, 09:33:13 AM »

As mentioned very harsh but not out of the blue.

It got me thinking about our ground (Asvion) which is by far the smallest in the length I�ve ever seen. We are hemmed by trees on three sides so that won�t change in a hurry. But I think we are lucky that we play in a different league and we are attached to a larger hockey club so we have a pretty good club house. And of course decent lunches and a very social third innings with visiting teams help. Just ask Aspenden when they come on tour every other year.

jblowe · « **Reply #36 on:** September 15, 2013, 05:26:23 PM »

I have just had a quick look at the Worcester County League Website.

This is quite interesting

WIDES 2013

Experimental trial for 1st XI matches in Divisions One and Two only for 2013 � any ball that passes outside the Batsman on the Leg side is to be called a wide.

Lines are to be drawn on the crease to indicate an offside wide in ALL matches in ALL divisions. The lines must be drawn 17" from the inside of each of the two return creases. They will therefore be two feet 6 and a half inches from the outside of the leg and off stumps. Umpires will be instructed to call a wide for any ball that they consider has passed outside of these lines.

If that was applied in our league, we would still be playing the opening game of the season.

Bulldog Cricket · « **Reply #37 on:** September 15, 2013, 06:15:06 PM »

Same rule in the west of England premier leagues. Saves any arguments over leg side wides.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #38 on:** September 15, 2013, 07:29:50 PM »

Quote from: Bulldog Cricket on September 15, 2013, 06:15:06 PM

Same rule in the west of England premier leagues. Saves any arguments over leg side wides.

Yep, I also think its a good way to do it. Everyone knows where they stand and you take away the inconsistent umpiring. Bowl down leg side, its a wide. Simples as they say.

Yes at the lower level stayed be more wides but then maybe they need 'punishing' to push people to improve?

Blazer · « **Reply #39 on:** September 15, 2013, 07:51:32 PM »

There are a few "economy" bowlers in the Worcs league thats going to get hurt by this rule.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 15, 2013, 08:07:27 PM »

Quote from: Blazer on September 15, 2013, 07:51:32 PM

There are a few "economy" bowlers in the Worcs league thats going to get hurt by this rule.

Sounds like they bowl negatively if that's the case.

Buzz · « **Reply #41 on:** September 16, 2013, 03:47:21 PM »

we have used that in the 50 over games in the surrey champ for ages - it isn't a massive deal.

It isn't that hard to bowl straight.

Having said that our opening bowler decided that, for the first time in 5 years, he would try to hit the stumps rather than bowl "in the corridor".

It made a rather big difference to the number of wickets he got (positively...)

El Nino · « **Reply #42 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:06:09 AM »

Hahah, I played a couple of games there last season, and my god is it small. Being someone who has played all my cricket in Australia on big grounds, then coming over and playing at grounds like this was an eye opener!

No good for being a bowler either!

An evening League game we played on here was fun though.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #43 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:15:56 AM »

Quote from: El Nino on September 18, 2013, 08:06:09 AM

Hahah, I played a couple of games there last season, and my god is it small. Being someone who has played all my cricket in Australia on big grounds, then coming over and playing at grounds like this was an eye opener!

No good for being a bowler either!

An evening League game we played on here was fun though.

Agree, I played in the TVL and Sussex Invitation Leagues and hardly every came across a small ground. Nearest we ever got was being on one side of the square. I moved to Yorkshire and they have plenty of older grounds that are practically postage stamps in comparison. Difference being is the wickets do plenty and don't aid run scoring, so it doesn't really matter. However, combine a good track with a small ground and you do get a bonus point advantage with batting scores ie. 200+ is much more achievable on a small ground

arsenal123 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 18, 2013, 10:00:57 AM »

Any idea whats happening with this matter? Is it to be appealed etc?

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