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Premier Division
« on: September 24, 2013, 04:46:44 PM »

How many Premier Divisions are there nationally? Also i was wondering  which county has the highest standard of cricket in their premier league and what is the standard like compared to 2XI county cricket ? Just a few things id like to know, anyone on the forum who plays premier cricket would be good to comment.

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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 06:07:25 PM »

http://www.play-cricket.com/WebLinks/WebLinks.asp?cid=236

If you scroll down past the national comps, that is a list of the ECB Premier Leagues.

Judging standard is tough.

I know a few boys who play East Anglian Prem, and they say the standard is comparable, if not slightly tougher than when they play Minor Counties for Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire etc.

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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 06:14:52 PM »

There are a range of standards is the impression I get - some, like the Home Counties, are the top level of cricket for a wide area and the standard is pretty decent.  Others are, by reputation, a bit weaker - I know the Kent Premier has been reported on here as being a mixture of good teams and pretty average ones.  Then you have strong ones that could be a lot stronger - Yorkshire and Lancashire are the obvious candidates here, where a lot of teams preferred to stick in the leagues they had always been in.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 06:18:36 PM »

Not sure about other premiers, but the Yorkshire based one is a locked afair. Invite only, which it believe is harsh for good teams in the area.


A believe the notes premier isn't, and the winner of various leagues can get a Place.


Anyway. Joe root played ecb prem with Yorkshire academy and Sheffield collegiate

He averaged 49 in 2010 over 22 games, played for Yorkshire 1sts that same year, 2years later he was picked for England?

I'd say its a high standard.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 06:21:38 PM »

Not sure about other premiers, but the Yorkshire based one is a locked afair. Invite only, which it believe is harsh for good teams in the area.

There are historical reasons for that - a lot of teams and leagues were approached when the ECB pushed premier league cricket and most were snotty to the point of being offensive, to the point that the Yorkshire board nearly declined to have a league.  In the end they managed it, but they had to promise long term cricket to clubs that were being forced to resign from their existing leagues.  Is it ripe for a review?  Certainly is.  But the standard is still pretty superb.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »

There are historical reasons for that - a lot of teams and leagues were approached when the ECB pushed premier league cricket and most were snotty to the point of being offensive, to the point that the Yorkshire board nearly declined to have a league.  In the end they managed it, but they had to promise long term cricket to clubs that were being forced to resign from their existing leagues.  Is it ripe for a review?  Certainly is.  But the standard is still pretty superb.

Problem with the Yorkshire league is the 2nd string teams of those clubs can vary so much. York, for instance, won everything. Their 2nd team is in the York Prem. Castleford first team are in the same Yorkshire League, yet their 2nd team is in York div 5, the same as York's 4th team. So the standard of filling in is a whole different ball game.

Not saying Castleford are bad, just an example how two first teams get such different support from the rest of their clubs.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 07:46:31 PM »

Essex prem is at the higher end from what I'm led to believe. I know that a number of the club's have a significant proportion of players that either represent or are on the fringes of Essex 1s.

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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 08:19:21 PM »

We played a team in our cricket week for the first time this season. They were called Dragons but were made up of players that played in the Home Counties prem league. We play in the Kent championship which is below the kent premier league. There batsmen in the top 7 were all class players ( most had Choice Willow) gear.

The bowling on the other hand was not as strong. Openers were sharp but didn't do much, spinners tidy and change bowlers ok. They scored 254-8 in an all day game and declared after lunch we replied with 215 all out after an opening stand between myself and my league opening partner of 142.

The Kent premier is strong league and as mentioned so is the Essex premier but Essex league has more teams.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 08:25:53 PM »

Not sure about other premiers, but the Yorkshire based one is a locked afair. Invite only, which it believe is harsh for good teams in the area.


A believe the notes premier isn't, and the winner of various leagues can get a Place.


Anyway. Joe root played ecb prem with Yorkshire academy and Sheffield collegiate

He averaged 49 in 2010 over 22 games, played for Yorkshire 1sts that same year, 2years later he was picked for England?

I'd say its a high standard.

Yes the Notts Premier league is made up from the South Notts and Bassetlaw leagues top teams with promotion / relegation, pretty big tier system with some very good players
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 08:26:39 PM »

Played Kent Premier this season. Top sides are very good and historically have done well in the national knockout and conference cup. 7 or 8 lads who have played Kent first team this year played for clubs regularly plus plenty more with first class experience.
There is a big gap between the top 6-7 sides and the rest though mainly due to the $$$ they pay.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 08:33:48 PM »

The Home Counties is possibly the strongest not least because of the number of teams feeding into it. TVL & Saracens feed into it with nearly 20 divisions each and the Cherwell has 10+. 50 Divisions going into a Pyramid structure means alot of competition. That said the best teams in all the various Premier leagues are probably on a par.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 08:43:59 PM »

Played Kent Premier this season. Top sides are very good and historically have done well in the national knockout and conference cup. 7 or 8 lads who have played Kent first team this year played for clubs regularly plus plenty more with first class experience.
There is a big gap between the top 6-7 sides and the rest though mainly due to the $$$ they pay.

Who do you play for mate? I have a couple of mates at Hartley and Bexley
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 08:56:39 PM »

Anyone have an idea of how strong the middlesex premier league is compared to others?
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 09:01:35 PM »

Who do you play for mate? I have a couple of mates at Hartley and Bexley

Sibton. Hartley are a very very good unit, decent bunch as well.
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Re: Premier Division
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2013, 09:21:05 PM »

SOULMAN who do you know at Hartley and bexley as I play for Hartley
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