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[ppccopener]

british airways and hayes went from middlesex(championship) to TVL.

sheen park have gone back to the surrey league from middlesex(championship)

and I have heard a couple of teams looking at the TVL league

middx are losing teams quite quickly,the middlesex county league thou has the established regular sides like ealing,finchley,eastcote etc

[Gingerbusiness]

Those Middx teams are basically teams of pro's or former pros. Id be interested to see if they are paid...

Playing against Hayes and British Airways is great fun......

[ppccopener]

hayes i know from the old games in the championship,BA side has changed a lot since we played them
the county league(above us) yes lots of pro's or ex pro's
eastcote i think have ravi patel,adam rossington,david goodchild,alan coleman
sam robson i think plays at finchley,ealing have chris peploe

in our league it's not allowed unless you are retired for 2 years(i think)
the prob is we come across overseas players that clearly are pros but not declared on registration
and it's one overseas per team, so in the seconds we come across some quality players

[Manormanic]

Playing against Hayes and British Airways is great fun......

against Hayes yes...as long as its not AT Hayes!

[pacman75cricket]

Watching this with interest as we play below Cherwell, but long term plans to move up the structure.

[uknsaunders]

against Hayes yes...as long as its not AT Hayes!

Fond memories of Hayes, got 60* in a league game about 20 years ago. Is it still a dump then?

[uknsaunders]

Watching this with interest as we play below Cherwell, but long term plans to move up the structure.

What's the standard like in the Mid-Bucks League? Is it just the cherwell you can go into?

[Gingerbusiness]

Fond memories of Hayes, got 60* in a league game about 20 years ago. Is it still a dump then?

Yes but they are currently rebuilding their clubhouse. I really enjoyed getting their overseas out - even more so when I found out he played for Delhi Daredevils U23! Though apparently they will be massively weakened next season as their team is massively populated by Navy personnel and they are shipping out.

All I know about BA is that they are consistently in trouble with the League Disaplinary Panel...

[six and out]

I played in the TVL and HCCPL for years before moving away a few years back. I (like most people have said) don't think that the standard will be an issue as there are some excellent clubs in the West feeder (Gerrards X, Reading, Oxford) and also in the TVL Div 1 (Finchampstead, Chesham) and Cherwell (Thame).

What will interest me is what they decide to do with the restructure. It is a massive undertaking as it effects a huge amount of clubs, 3 leagues (plus the others that feed into them). There is also the question of who to replace the Herts teams in the HCCPL Div 1 with. I mean do 4 clubs now go up? and so on.... and so on.

[pacman75cricket]

What's the standard like in the Mid-Bucks League? Is it just the cherwell you can go into?

Probably is Cherwell in future but working our way back up divisions after trying 4 counties for a couple of years.(Left as travelling was issuefor 2nd team)also now 40 overs win lose apparentlybigger clubs may put 3rd/4th teams in league as travelling is an issue-n countie n big leages.

Re standard top of prem division probably bt somethinglike div 5-6 but long time sincei played Cherwell. Could be higher or lower.

[Gingerbusiness]

To sum it up, I played HCPL 2 seasons ago, and it was very comparable to when I played 2nd XI cricket in my early 20s.

I play in the TVCL now and the standard is still very very high in the top two/three leagues - and an increasing number of young, quality players coming through. I feel like an old man @ 29!

I think it's a shame that the highest level will be weakened... BUT as I am sure the brave five, which rejected leaving the HCPL, will know is that whatever guise the HCPL takes next year, the league will be back to full strength in two years and will become even tougher because of the teams that are waiting to take the places of the Herts teams (Finch, Datchet, Amersham etc) which are well run but with sides young and developing all the time.

In the short term, it is a shame. IMHO it will be a 4 team competition next year in the HCPL (Henley, Slough, High Wycombe and Banbury) with newly-promoted Oxford being a dark horse to break into that top 4.

[Manormanic]

Fond memories of Hayes, got 60* in a league game about 20 years ago. Is it still a dump then?

That wouldn't be entirely fair - they have a nice pavilion, good atmosphere and do the best teas in the league - but the wicket was relaid four years ago and just keeps getting worse, with no bounce at all.

[Manormanic]

I play in the TVCL now and the standard is still very very high in the top two/three leagues - and an increasing number of young, quality players coming through. I feel like an old man @ 29!

who do you play for out of interest?

[six and out]

http://www.club-cricket.co.uk/news/details/317

Long but really interesting article here, well worth a read.

[Manormanic]

http://www.club-cricket.co.uk/news/details/317

Long but really interesting article here, well worth a read.

very interesting, top spot!