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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2013, 10:40:45 AM »

I've played in both the TVL and Cherwell (div 4 highest in both) and from my experience I would say that the TVL is considerably stronger at that level than the Cherwell league.

My club won our league this year so I'll get to experience TVL 3 next year, looks like a few changes will be made from what I've heard from the TVL AGM on Thursday.

I'm sure that someone will be able to confirm or correct me as I've heard this second hand as I wasn't at the AGM, but apparently the best 3rd place finisher from 3 and below is being promoted with just one team relegated. I'm not sure how this will affect div 2, I'm guessing best 2nd placed will go up? I understand that Farnham Royal have been placed in div 3 and that some of the divisions have been slightly rearranged to make them a bit more travel friendly. The divisions were released to the people present at the AGM but I haven't seen a copy myself so unsure how big the changes, if any, are.
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« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2013, 10:57:00 AM »

Here's an update:-

SHCL Premier League to Start in 2014
At a follow-up meeting, after the decision to form a Saracens Hertfordshire Premier League and Championship, held on the 11 November last the 24 clubs attending unanimously agreed to begin the new divisions for the 2014 season. With the agreement of the HCPL committee all of our clubs within that structure will withdraw their first elevens forthwith.

This is an exciting time for the Saracens League. For 2014 all our best teams will now be playing within our League increasing the standard and, we hope, building a strong base for the future development of the League and all of our clubs. A cricket sub-committee has been formed which will meet next Monday , the 18 November, to finalise the details of the composition of the new top two divisions - the Premier League and the Championship - and the playing conditions and match rules.

We will post details after that meeting and the full executive committee meeting that follows it on the 25 November showing the effect that all this will have on the rest of the structure. Although this is good news at the top of our structure it is also central to our plans that the whole of the League develops and reflects all clubs’ aims and aspirations.

We propose to suggest amendments to match rules throughout the League and will go out to clubs with those proposals by the end of November.
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2013, 11:07:04 AM »

Seen this from Tring Park:-

We have received an invitation to join the Herts set up, but obviously no decision to change has been made.

While Tring is in Herts, it's on the border and a Bucks Cricket Association club who host minor county games. Surprised Bucks haven't had a word with Herts CA about this. Sounds a bit like poaching to increase the strength. I would be surprised if they quit the Home Counties for Herts but depends on the travelling. They are a strong well organised club so the Home Counties would have more appeal imho.
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2013, 11:25:54 AM »

A few TVL clubs have received offers to the new Herts league, if I recall correctly I think it might be as many as 12, but unsure as to who they are or whether they will accept. Tring Park is obviously one and we could probably have educated guesses as to who the others might be based on their geographical location.
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2013, 12:24:08 PM »

Let's have a go  :)

OMT, Amersham, Chesham, Chalfont St Peter, Chenies & Latimer, Beaconsfield, Harefield, Gerrards X, Hillingdon Manor, Ickenham, Tring, and maybe Farnham Common or Farnham Royal.

I would be very surprised if they went much further out as it wouldn't make sense travelling wise.
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« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2013, 12:35:28 PM »

But let's be honest;

NONE of them will go unless they want to drop down a level.

Can't see Amersham - they just won Div.1!
Beaconsfield and Chesham - Can't see that happening!
Chalfont St Peter - Div 3 with teams like Hayes and Kew... All quite close traveling wise.
Gerrards X - Not a chance!

The others... Who knows but can't see any of them giving it any serious thought... Unless there is something being offered in return...
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2013, 01:08:44 PM »

Never underestimate people and clubs lust for winning ! Regardless of level
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2013, 01:10:25 PM »

Doubt Farnham Common, too far for us
Maybe Farnham Royal, but not many players left
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2013, 02:15:09 PM »

Let's have a go  :)

OMT, Amersham, Chesham, Chalfont St Peter, Chenies & Latimer, Beaconsfield, Harefield, Gerrards X, Hillingdon Manor, Ickenham, Tring, and maybe Farnham Common or Farnham Royal.

I would be very surprised if they went much further out as it wouldn't make sense travelling wise.

Would have been the ones I would have said too, probably minus both Farnham clubs. Reckon High Wycombe might have got an invite but don't think they would accept. Maybe Ruislip and Eastcote?

As Gingerbusiness said, I can't see Amersham going and Chesham's twitter feed makes them seem quite happy at being promoted so they probably won't be going anywhere either.

I wouldn't be surprised if they would try to get a couple of the Cherwell clubs as well, in particular Leighton Buzzard, Bletchley Town, Great Brickhill, Wolverton Town and Long Marston. I would add Cublington but as they only joined the league 2 or 3 season ago I don't think they would want to move over to the Herts league so soon, if at all.
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2013, 05:15:07 PM »

Let's have a go  :)

OMT, Amersham, Chesham, Chalfont St Peter, Chenies & Latimer, Beaconsfield, Harefield, Gerrards X, Hillingdon Manor, Ickenham, Tring, and maybe Farnham Common or Farnham Royal.

I would be very surprised if they went much further out as it wouldn't make sense travelling wise.

Can definitely refute one of those.  Suspcet Ruislip more likely than ourselves, Hayes and Ickenham
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2013, 05:40:56 PM »

Hayes defo aren't going.
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2013, 06:15:21 PM »

Watching with interest as Tring host bucks games. As well ashavng a number of Bucks players.

We haven't received an invite yet. Lol
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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2013, 07:21:12 PM »

Doubt High Wycombe would get an invite after their chairman's comments! High Wycombe is a fair trek to many of the herts clubs. You might as well invite marlow or slough!



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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2013, 07:23:33 PM »

Doubt High Wycombe would get an invite after their chairman's comments! High Wycombe is a fair trek to many of the herts clubs.

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Re: Herts clubs vote to leave Home Counties Prem
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2013, 07:28:54 PM »

Doubt High Wycombe would get an invite after their chairman's comments! High Wycombe is a fair trek to many of the herts clubs. You might as well invite marlow or slough!



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Bit of a geography fail by me there!

Looking at it from another angle, are any of the Herts clubs wanting to stay within the existing HCPL set up or are they all moving to the Herts league? I believe 5 clubs voted to remain part of the HCPL - are they all going?
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