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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2013, 08:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Ryan on November 10, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
1st blade ready for pressing.  The pressing process should reduce the veneer down to a couple of mm.




Wouldn't it be better if the smaller veneer be pressed on its own and glued on to cleft rather than pressing glued up together cleft to keep the size big Ryan ?. Does pressing compress the overall size or just the face ?.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2013, 08:17:29 PM »
Quote from: Number4 on November 10, 2013, 07:32:15 PM
There seems to be a lot more "glue" on the TK...

It's not glue I don't think.  It looks like the middle section hasn't really had any pressure applied to it so hasn't bonded as tight as the rest. I'd say most of the pressure was applied to the edges.  I'll know more when mine have been pressed tomorrow. 
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »
I don't think you'd be able the press the thin veneer on its own. 

Loads of variable's to consider though.  This is just one of them I'm currently testing.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2013, 03:03:21 AM »
Quote from: Ryan on November 10, 2013, 06:36:16 PM
I thought everyone would like to see a TK lam cut in half so here we are.

TK on the right and mine on the left.



85mm max spine and 65mm max edge.






It does show how a lower grade bat can be turned into an expensive sought after laminate though doesn't it..

Is that 6 grains on the TK but a very grainy veneer?

Yours is a grainy bat with a grainy veneer Ryan.. Is that right?
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2013, 03:15:08 AM »
Looks great so far, can't wait to see the final product!
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2013, 02:52:15 PM »
Thought laminate bats where illegal in all forms of cricket?

MCC Law 6.4(b) states: “The blade shall consist solely of wood.”

It was recently reviewed to state that the adhesive/rubber etc used as part of the laminating process broke this rule and so use of any laminate bats is prohibited.  The MCC also went on to state that umpires at amateur level will be ebcouraged to stop the use of such blades.

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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2013, 03:19:17 PM »
Quote from: tailender on November 12, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Thought laminate bats where illegal in all forms of cricket?

MCC Law 6.4(b) states: “The blade shall consist solely of wood.”

It was recently reviewed to state that the adhesive/rubber etc used as part of the laminating process broke this rule and so use of any laminate bats is prohibited.  The MCC also went on to state that umpires at amateur level will be ebcouraged to stop the use of such blades.

 :-[

Correct,  as said earlier they are an experiment and should only be used as net bats. 
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2013, 03:26:00 PM »
should have put a layer of cork in there. or do a triple laminate and dig out the back part of the bat and fill it with cork to get the weight right down.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2013, 03:36:45 PM »
Quote from: GarrettJ on November 12, 2013, 03:26:00 PM
should have put a layer of cork in there. or do a triple laminate and dig out the back part of the bat and fill it with cork to get the weight right down.

Same principle as corking baseball bats?
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2013, 03:42:27 PM »
Quote from: uknsaunders on November 12, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
Same principle as corking baseball bats?

I saw a program on the discovery chanel about corked baseball bats.  They tested them and results ahowed an increase in performance. 
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2013, 03:55:49 PM »
they also used to hollow out baseball bats and fill them with 'superballs' - also illegal.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2013, 04:06:18 PM »
Quote from: trypewriter on November 12, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
they also used to hollow out baseball bats and fill them with 'superballs' - also illegal.

Superballs?
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2013, 04:39:19 PM »
Quote from: TangoWhiskey on November 12, 2013, 04:06:18 PM
Superballs?
Google it and turn safe search off (just make sure nobody can see what you're looking at though)  :D
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2013, 04:42:58 PM »
Quote from: CameronPye94 on November 12, 2013, 04:39:19 PM
Google it and turn safe search off (just make sure nobody can see what you're looking at though)  :D

Haha, this is why I didn't google it.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2013, 05:12:13 PM »
Quote from: Ryan on November 12, 2013, 03:19:17 PM
Correct,  as said earlier they are an experiment and should only be used as net bats.

Fair enough, I just think they will spoil the amateur game and half the umpires I have ever played with wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  Strategic placement of stickers can also make it very difficult to detect such bats..... slippery slope
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