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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #225 on: November 25, 2013, 09:56:00 AM »

Nice use of initials there, N Saunders. :)
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #226 on: November 25, 2013, 10:17:36 AM »

I'm British and although Clarke's comment was proven to be excessive, i don't think any less of him. I do think he's a superb batsman and imaginative captain. He seemed under a lot of pressure in the build up to the game and it was probably a combination of the release of that pressure and also to endear himself to his players and the Aussie public.

Don't see a problem with it - Anderson should have turned and given him a smart answer such as "mate, I'm batting 11 and I'm braver against the short ball than you are!"
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #227 on: November 25, 2013, 11:03:04 AM »

Being an Aussie it is fantastic to see how most of you poms handle the loss, but some of you sound like utter lemons. Talking about excessive celebrating and not taking what they dish out.. Take a third person perspective from the past and re assess what you have been saying.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #228 on: November 25, 2013, 11:04:21 AM »

Trott leaves Ashes tour...

guess that's why England camp jumped on Warner's comments. Looks likely trott's got bigger issues than the inability to play short balls.

stress-related illness.

Seriously...which do you reckon would impact on Trott more?

A mental midget from a council estate like Warner saying "I reckon he was scared"

OR:

A respected former England captain Michael Vaughan saying "they were the two worst innings I have ever seen from an England number 3"

The moral outrage shown about the former comments has been over the top and the deafening silence over the latter comments has been typically Pommy style hypocrisy.

I feel great sadness for Trott, but I doubt that Warner was the tipping edge.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #229 on: November 25, 2013, 11:05:14 AM »

Don't see a problem with it - Anderson should have turned and given him a smart answer such as "mate, I'm batting 11 and I'm braver against the short ball than you are!"

...and that would have been the perfect response.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #230 on: November 25, 2013, 11:17:15 AM »

vic
i dont always agree with your comments on here but you are 100 per cent right

look at the huge number of ex players involved with Sky and other broadcasters,everything is magnified far more during an ashes series,the hype is way over the top

Vaughans comments were OTT...,they all ramp up the discussion to fever pitch.
I think the relationship between the England team and the press has been bad for a while,and will turn worse in the future.

constant anyalysis and comment you would think all of the former players never had any technical faults
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #231 on: November 25, 2013, 11:20:12 AM »

Please can we get back to the cricket.

Young men playing in front of 30,000 baying fans are likely to see the red mist.

Moaning about a few verbals is weak enough. I think the players should spend some time looking at the scoreboard.

In the mean time the way this Flower regime works is that Bell will bat at 3, Root will move up to 5 and the new player will come in at 6. We wont move to 5 bowlers as Stokes isn't ready yet and Prior is too out of form.

Bresnen will play in the 4 day game with the performance squad in Queensland this week and not in the tour game. Tremlett's international career is finished and Bress will be back for the second test.

Really not sure who will be coming in at 6 - it would be quite useful to have another experienced player around to fill in for this series, but given that no one has yet been called up, my guess is that Balance will get the nod for the next game.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #232 on: November 25, 2013, 11:31:40 AM »

Seriously...which do you reckon would impact on Trott more?

A mental midget from a council estate like Warner saying "I reckon he was scared"

OR:

A respected former England captain Michael Vaughan saying "they were the two worst innings I have ever seen from an England number 3"

The moral outrage shown about the former comments has been over the top and the deafening silence over the latter comments has been typically Pommy style hypocrisy.

I feel great sadness for Trott, but I doubt that Warner was the tipping edge.

On ya Vic, i love reading your comments - call it as you see it without being one eyed. Common sense does prevail......
I'm glad that your happy to put these keyboard warriors back into their boxes, where they belong.....
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #233 on: November 25, 2013, 11:38:54 AM »

Please can we get back to the cricket.

Young men playing in front of 30,000 baying fans are likely to see the red mist.

Moaning about a few verbals is weak enough. I think the players should spend some time looking at the scoreboard.

In the mean time the way this Flower regime works is that Bell will bat at 3, Root will move up to 5 and the new player will come in at 6. We wont move to 5 bowlers as Stokes isn't ready yet and Prior is too out of form.

Bresnen will play in the 4 day game with the performance squad in Queensland this week and not in the tour game. Tremlett's international career is finished and Bress will be back for the second test.

Really not sure who will be coming in at 6 - it would be quite useful to have another experienced player around to fill in for this series, but given that no one has yet been called up, my guess is that Balance will get the nod for the next game.

Why not play Bres and Stokes? 2 Allrounders? Do we believe Bairstow or Ballance will do a better job in the short term? Part of the issue was Aus getting after Swann when the 3 seamers were bowled out. Likewise, would Anderson and co have to pace themselves as much if Stokes could give 10-15 overs a day?

Would be very interesting to see how Englands sixth batsman (apart from root) has gone in the last 4 years. Apart from Bairstow making 2 50's against SA at Lords I don't recall many big scores.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #234 on: November 25, 2013, 11:47:03 AM »

Why not play Bres and Stokes? 2 Allrounders? Do we believe Bairstow or Ballance will do a better job in the short term? Part of the issue was Aus getting after Swann when the 3 seamers were bowled out. Likewise, would Anderson and co have to pace themselves as much if Stokes could give 10-15 overs a day?

Would be very interesting to see how Englands sixth batsman (apart from root) has gone in the last 4 years. Apart from Bairstow making 2 50's against SA at Lords I don't recall many big scores.

Bresnan even in a wheel chair offers more than Chris "Bookaboo" Tremlett does these days.

Ballance has looked awful when he has had to step up...forget him being brought in.

Bairstow will be brought in, because at least he will scrap.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #236 on: November 25, 2013, 01:10:51 PM »

Find it odd that the English media always blame lack of warm ups or poor warm up sides for being "undercooked". Not heard a word from other international teams.

Thought lack of warm ups was just how international cricket is now played.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #237 on: November 25, 2013, 01:18:57 PM »

Bresnan even in a wheel chair offers more than Chris "Bookaboo" Tremlett does these days.

Ballance has looked awful when he has had to step up...forget him being brought in.

Bairstow will be brought in, because at least he will scrap.

for me the squad selection wasnt right. too many untried and untested players. Bairstow i still have no idea how he gets near the england side. Balance looks good but untested and to test someone in an ashes series isnt fair and if failed could give a biased view.

i think they need to draft in some experience. someone whos going to hang around and not worry about not scoring runs for a few overs
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #238 on: November 25, 2013, 01:34:12 PM »

for me the squad selection wasnt right. too many untried and untested players. Bairstow i still have no idea how he gets near the england side. Balance looks good but untested and to test someone in an ashes series isnt fair and if failed could give a biased view.

i think they need to draft in some experience. someone whos going to hang around and not worry about not scoring runs for a few overs

Ballance has scored 5 runs in 2 innings since being here and Stokes has been smashed around the park going for almost 6 an over and scoring about as many runs as Ballance so not sure either of these are going to be played
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #239 on: November 25, 2013, 01:49:18 PM »

Surely Compton will be flown in?

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