Topic: Butterfly (Read 147957 times)

Northern monkey · « **Reply #525 on:** December 17, 2014, 02:04:39 PM »

I'm afraid it's down to what people will pay
Like you said, the overheads in this country are still too much to produce what the consumer is willing to pay
The majority of uk manufacturing these days is specialised, aerospace for instance
Run of the mill,(no pun intended) manufacturing has gone
It's still cheaper to import goods from China or Turkey for instance, even for comparable quality and tolerances
Our company is based in Lancashire, but we sell predominantly in London and the south of England
Why? Purely down to what people are prepared to pay

I honestly don't know how you can produce the bats you sell, for �200 ish
The workmanship and quality is as good as it gets ,

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #526 on:** December 17, 2014, 03:03:46 PM »

Well I think it's a fair price to be honest. I charge for the materials overheads etc, and then what I consider a desent hourly wage for craftsmanship. I can't see much honesty in charging �400 for something when it's not costing that to produce by myself. I suppose a lot of those who just produce a label have to charge more because they should in reality be paying more for a quality product to be made for them and not just going for the cheapest they can get to make maximum profit. The other bonus I have is that I am happy working from a small workshop at home instead of renting big flash industrial units with massive overheads. When I started in the building trade when I was a young lad some of the best local craftsmen you would find worked out of their sheds and garages to make a good living. Image isn't everything in my mind quality of product is. I rather make a steady living than be run off my feet dropping the standard of my product trying to keep up with demand to try and be a multi millionaire. I love what I do and intend to keep it that way.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #527 on:** December 17, 2014, 03:05:57 PM »

I fully agree with the above statement and that goes for not just Paul but a lot of the smaller UK bat makers including John @ red ink and RK as well.
Although correct me of I'm wrong but butterfly is the one exception isn't it as it's graded as G4 or lower so I would imagine the merchants are happy to sell at very low price which allows the maker to produce a good performing product but also make a better profit from this particular grade.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #528 on:** December 17, 2014, 04:32:59 PM »

Well I wouldn't bet against some of the big companies putting the lowest quality of clefts that cost about a tenner that look like players grade etc on the shop shelves and pricing them up at �400. When you deal with thousands of clefts at a time you will find plenty that look good.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #529 on:** December 17, 2014, 05:02:26 PM »

Yes,,,and that's the crux of it really
How many punters are gonna be bamboozled with shiny stickers and fork out for poor quality bats, grossly overpriced

abdulwq · « **Reply #530 on:** December 18, 2014, 12:38:59 PM »

any pics of butterfly 1 clefts sir.
really appreciate your love and passion towards bat making rather than money making.

Turn Of Pace · « **Reply #531 on:** December 18, 2014, 02:09:10 PM »

Quote from: abdulwq on December 18, 2014, 12:38:59 PM

any pics of butterfly 1 clefts sir.
really appreciate your love and passion towards bat making rather than money making.

Have a look back through this thread and you'll see plenty of pictures of butterfly1 clefts. Paul's honest and refreshing approach to bat making is something that people have bought into in a big way and helped to create him a loyal following. It also helps that he makes a cracking bat.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #532 on:** December 18, 2014, 04:08:55 PM »

Quote from: Turn Of Pace on December 18, 2014, 02:09:10 PM

Have a look back through this thread and you'll see plenty of pictures of butterfly1 clefts. Paul's honest and refreshing approach to bat making is something that people have bought into in a big way and helped to create him a loyal following. It also helps that he makes a cracking bat.

Many thanks for your kind words. Well I like to build up good working relationships with people. The more we go on fortunately the more kind comments and compliments we are getting and hopefully we will keep that for ever more. It's been an interesting ride I must say firstly the years of basically doing my own apprenticeship and then trying to make things consistent and now making more and more bats and learning about the different markets out there and avenues whilst trying to keep the integrity of the business as to maintaining the ethics that we set out to do I the first place. It is fascinating if not hard work, but it wouldn't be worth it if you didn't have to put the effort in and it all makes it worth while when you get someone walk out the workshop with a big smile on their face.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #533 on:** December 18, 2014, 04:12:31 PM »

Quote from: abdulwq on December 18, 2014, 12:38:59 PM

any pics of butterfly 1 clefts sir.
really appreciate your love and passion towards bat making rather than money making.

Have a look through the forum at what we do and then if your interested in buying one just drop me an email on aldred173@btinternet.com. I'm sure you understand I can be spending 2 or 3 hours a day sending pics these days to people who end up appearing just wanting to see pics. So take a look we have plenty of quality butterfly1 bats in at the moment not many standards at the moment as we've sold out of those just about. Whatever your after we can sort it out for you.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #534 on:** January 17, 2015, 01:43:21 PM »

heres a lovely butterfly one spectre 2-9 beautiful pick up and feels goooooodddddd . once again sorry the pics are misty the workshop is cold today and camera keeps misting up not got time to mess around with it

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #535 on:** January 31, 2015, 01:30:02 PM »

a lovely butterfly one off to a local lad plays with the England disability side and one of our Derbyshire prem teams. a lovely gold sovereign 2-10 very nice indeed

Boondougal · « **Reply #536 on:** January 31, 2015, 07:13:40 PM »

those last 2 bats are great. Super straight grains through the toe and the butterfly marks in the right places to not even be of an issue (not that they are) in normal play. i do understand why a clean bat with no markings fetches top dollar but i alway prefer a bat with a bit of character in the wood. Makes its feel more real.

nice work as always.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #537 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:01:51 PM »

It wouldn't surprise me if due to the ongoing shortages of top end willow if the butterfly willow doesn't come more and more to the fore as its quality is second to none, it just has a stain. Remember where you heard it first

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #538 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:18:20 PM »

I saw an old catalogue entry on here the other day saying a butterfly stain was the sign of the finest cricket bat willow.

It's funny how trends with bats seem to go in circles. Possibly not in this exact order:
Butterfly stains
Full profiles
Big edged light weight bats (read concaved)
Offset edges
Blemish free grainy willow
Retro stickers
Back to full profiles
Now return of the butterfly stain?

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #539 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:23:00 PM »

I've always said its all trends the key is pressing handles and the skill of balancing and shaping correctly

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