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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #195 on: December 15, 2013, 01:32:36 PM »

On a side note, it would be nice to be able to listen to stump mic all game rather than the commentators. Would be interesting to hear who 'sledges' and then can't take it back. If you sledge then you can't moan when you get it back, if you don't say anything then you shouldn't get any in return.
That would be interesting.  Clearly prior and or bell said something to warner that was more than the usual. Or doing so when the bowler is running in, something went on,  Perhaps our coach should hold a press conference and carry on like a sanctimonious git.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #196 on: December 15, 2013, 02:04:23 PM »

That would be interesting.  Clearly prior and or bell said something to warner that was more than the usual. Or doing so when the bowler is running in, something went on,  Perhaps our coach should hold a press conference and carry on like a sanctimonious git.

Defensive aren't we?? Pretty sure I didn't name anyone. I suspect just like you bell said something inappropriate. Seriously shouldn't just believe that everyone English dislikes everything aus ever do!

If you want to believe aus are world beaters then be my guest. It was said by a low few in the summer England were in the decline but were foo foooood. They are playing worse this series and that always make players look Better than they are.. Think how good everyone looks vs Bangladesh for instance.. Or how good batting looks in India!
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #197 on: December 15, 2013, 02:25:37 PM »

Defensive aren't we?? Pretty sure I didn't name anyone. I suspect just like you bell said something inappropriate. Seriously shouldn't just believe that everyone English dislikes everything aus ever do!

If you want to believe aus are world beaters then be my guest. It was said by a low few in the summer England were in the decline but were foo foooood. They are playing worse this series and that always make players look Better than they are.. Think how good everyone looks vs Bangladesh for instance.. Or how good batting looks in India!
No, not meant to sound defensive.  I recon stump mic feed as an option would be awesome.   Warner can give it  and take it, just struck me as odd that he seemed to react so strongly to something.  But, you wont find aussies grizzling about it was my point.  Im not suggesting this team are world beaters, definately not a complete team, but not as far away as you blokes seem to think, or let yourselves think.  Time will tell.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #198 on: December 15, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »

Is there any public support in england for including Mills in melbourne?
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #199 on: December 15, 2013, 02:36:06 PM »

Is there any public support in england for including Mills in melbourne?

Not really. He's thought of as a 'net' bowler. I don't think his stats are that great either. I'm actually watching last nights play. Barring the fact warner should have gone on 13 (England of 2009-11 would have taken it) I'm liking his innings. Utter distain for swan and his negative bowling and showing up Brennan for lack of pace. Anderson beat the bat a few times early on and again.. Rodgers should have been out too but they are the small margins between a good team and a poor team.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #200 on: December 15, 2013, 02:57:24 PM »

I have a question was the writing on the wall though.

Last home series bar a few great innings and some indifferent Australia bowling the series hung on 2 incidents and could have gone either way.

Warner has certainly come of age he could go on to dominate in a kind of Hayden way
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2013, 03:01:07 PM »

I have a question was the writing on the wall though.

Last home series bar a few great innings and some indifferent Australia bowling the series hung on 2 incidents and could have gone either way.

Warner has certainly come of age he could go on to dominate in a kind of Hayden way

It would be interesting to go through the summer threads and see who was saying that England were poor and who was still bulling them up. Agree though that you could see in the summer this series would not be as straight forward as people were saying. Couldn't see a 5-0 white wash coming though.

I hope Warner doesn't become that good because he's a complete boorish thug but he's looking good currently. Although I think he still gives chances and IF they are taken it'd keep him quiet. When confidence is high with him he's dangerous though.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #202 on: December 15, 2013, 03:26:51 PM »

... they are the small margins between a good team and a poor team.
Totally agree. Earlier in the summer it was England winning those crucial moments and coming out with a 3-0. In all three Australia 1st innings we have had a promising position and not been able to convert it.

What I think is interesting is how Australia have managed to turn it around so they have the small edge. I think a lot of credit to go to coach here. Really seems to have given them a 'spirit'. Maybe its not the England playing team we need to look at changing (although Anderson is look pretty ineffective) - but the coaching staff?
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #203 on: December 15, 2013, 03:29:01 PM »

Personally I like Warner. Think sometimes he doesn't think before he speaks but I'm sure he will learn. I admire his work ethic when it comes to training and his fitness. Btw I'm English.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #204 on: December 15, 2013, 03:41:44 PM »

Not sure England need as many back room staff as they have and I'm sure they'll all find reasons why they are not to blame and protect their little jobs. Back room staff is the first area I'd look, if that's stale then it'll filter through the team.

Aus are taking their chances as they always used to until the last great generation moved on, it makes all the difference to confidence which as we all know is a massive factor in cricket
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #205 on: December 15, 2013, 04:01:04 PM »

England are poor, and the ashes are gone. Will we try something new and different in the next test? I hope so. But some how doubt it.

Root
Carberry
Bell
Pietersen
Cook
Ballance
Bairstow
Stokes
Bresnan
Mills
Panesar

I know people will say"why drop cook down" but I think a left/right opening combo will add something different.
Broads injured, so mills can be called up.
Bowlings probably light, but it's a decent top 9!

If they get hammered,then they'd have done just as well as the current lot!

You can't pick Mills, he's not part of the squad.

Oh, and he's coming back to the UK tonight.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #206 on: December 15, 2013, 04:05:16 PM »

You can't pick Mills, he's not part of the squad.

Oh, and he's coming back to the UK tonight.

Read my entire post.
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #207 on: December 15, 2013, 04:08:24 PM »

Read my entire post.

Sorry, missed that. Don't think Broad is out for that long is he?

What's the point taking Finn and Rankin if they don't get the chance?
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #208 on: December 15, 2013, 04:23:41 PM »

Sorry, missed that. Don't think Broad is out for that long is he?

What's the point taking Finn and Rankin if they don't get the chance?

Learning experience :)
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Re: 3rd test - WACA, Perth, December 13-17
« Reply #209 on: December 15, 2013, 06:33:04 PM »

Just saw the highlights and found it rather amusing when Prior's giving Warner some lip service.

Warner's averaging 91 in the series with 2 hundreds and 2 fifties.

Whereas Prior's been a walking wicket and barely hanging on to his international career...
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