Topic: What would your Current England XI be? (Read 15080 times)

Gerry SA · « **Reply #60 on:** December 20, 2013, 12:24:07 PM »

Quote from: joeljonno on December 20, 2013, 06:41:44 AM

It was when he first started test cricket. He would play too many big shots to the wrong ball. If he got bogged down or scored slowly, he wouldn't dig in, rather blast his way out of it.

Not so much now, but reputations stick.

Warner's second Test, he's scored a 100 on a raging green top at Tasmania, against a top quality Kiwi seam attack.

Never a slogger in a million years.

joeljonno · « **Reply #61 on:** December 20, 2013, 01:06:06 PM »

Quote from: Gerry SA on December 20, 2013, 12:24:07 PM

Warner's second Test, he's scored a 100 on a raging green top at Tasmania, against a top quality Kiwi seam attack.

Never a slogger in a million years.

Aussie Sky News presenter...

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/12/03/can-david-warner-bat-through-a-gruelling-test/

Pretty much sums up what we have been saying (or at least myself, see other thread about 3rd test).

- Can bat.
- Can look good.
- Doesn't always seem to play the right shot to the right ball (see comment re: Dale Steyn on above link).

Even the article uses the word "slogger".

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #62 on:** December 20, 2013, 04:15:43 PM »

Warner is changing his style in tests and is looking better and better. However when he come onto the scene he was a slogger. It's jaunt a shame he's so thick and seems to think verbals is required

awp · « **Reply #63 on:** December 23, 2013, 10:45:56 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on December 20, 2013, 04:15:43 PM

Warner is changing his style in tests and is looking better and better. However when he come onto the scene he was a slogger. It's jaunt a shame he's so thick and seems to think verbals is required

Yep, definitely trending, got that Gilcrist change the game in an hour ability which is extremely rare. Not a bright lad, but based on what he has done with his success id say fundamentally decent. Re verbals..... your mob have brought it on themselves...

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 23, 2013, 03:26:26 PM »

Quote from: awp on December 23, 2013, 10:45:56 AM

Yep, definitely trending, got that Gilcrist change the game in an hour ability which is extremely rare. Not a bright lad, but based on what he has done with his success id say fundamentally decent. Re verbals..... your mob have brought it on themselves...

yes I'm sure Root's really deserving of abuse the moment he walks in to bat.. Anderson and Swann maybe as they gave it out and deserve no sympathy but I can't say I've ever seen or heard Root say boo to a goose so there was no need. The guy is a thug and just happens to be good at cricket and we as a society treat him like he's something special. He's a thug pure and simple and that shouldn't tolerated regardless of your 'talent'. So Joey Barton in football is a classic example.. just kick him out the game.. game doesn't need him.. give him a chance.. if you blow it then get lost.

Alvaro · « **Reply #65 on:** December 23, 2013, 07:02:31 PM »

I don't for a second think that Warner can even be remotely compared to Joey Barton.
He's boorish, but no more so than Hayden was, for instance. Barton has a real nasty streak to him, Warner is a panto villain.

Manormanic · « **Reply #66 on:** December 23, 2013, 07:16:14 PM »

I actually think Warner deserves a lot more respect than Hayden. Warner, when it comes down to it, is borderline inbred and pig thick - he doesn't mean to be an (No Swearing Please), he just is. Hayden, on the other hand, seemed bright and intelligent when I met him during his county fays - but became a grade a ****er as he became more successful. That's a far greater sin in my eyes.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #67 on:** December 23, 2013, 07:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on December 23, 2013, 07:02:31 PM

I don't for a second think that Warner can even be remotely compared to Joey Barton.
He's boorish, but no more so than Hayden was, for instance. Barton has a real nasty streak to him, Warner is a panto villain.

No nasty streak, because it's perfectly friendly to go and punch someone totally unprovoked...

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #68 on:** December 23, 2013, 07:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on December 23, 2013, 07:02:31 PM

I don't for a second think that Warner can even be remotely compared to Joey Barton.
He's boorish, but no more so than Hayden was, for instance. Barton has a real nasty streak to him, Warner is a panto villain.

Your joking right? Normal people go round punching people don't they??? Or go to great lengths to verbally abuse other players so even some of the best sledges in the game even call it OTT. The guy is a thug and very very similar to Joey Barton. Both not allowed on twitter as they can't be trusted.. Both gob off... Both pig thick.... Both over paid for being pig thick ... Pretty similar to me

Alvaro · « **Reply #69 on:** December 23, 2013, 08:24:11 PM »

Quote from: CameronPye94 on December 23, 2013, 07:37:17 PM

No nasty streak, because it's perfectly friendly to go and punch someone totally unprovoked...

See Ian Chappell and Ian Botham�

Remember, Joe Root is an angel

Alvaro · « **Reply #70 on:** December 23, 2013, 08:25:22 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on December 23, 2013, 07:40:43 PM

Your joking right? Normal people go round punching people don't they??? Or go to great lengths to verbally abuse other players so even some of the best sledges in the game even call it OTT. The guy is a thug and very very similar to Joey Barton. Both not allowed on twitter as they can't be trusted.. Both gob off... Both pig thick.... Both over paid for being pig thick ... Pretty similar to me

Never in the history of humanity have 'normal' people had a few sherbets and then punched someone in the heat of the moment.
Walkabout bars are tantamount to libraries most of the time.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #71 on:** December 23, 2013, 09:40:33 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on December 23, 2013, 08:25:22 PM

Never in the history of humanity have 'normal' people had a few sherbets and then punched someone in the heat of the moment.
Walkabout bars are tantamount to libraries most of the time.

Oh so it's ok to go about punching people? You know, cause I had a few so that's ok then.

Alvaro · « **Reply #72 on:** December 23, 2013, 09:42:09 PM »

I'm not saying it's fine, I'm saying it happens.

Buzz · « **Reply #73 on:** December 23, 2013, 09:53:49 PM »

my Xi for boxing day...

cook
carberry
bell
root
Pietersen
stokes
prior
Bresnan
broad (assuming fit)
Anderson
Monty

if broad isn't fit, we have to play Finn. you can't give a debut at this point so Rankin shouldn't play, tremlett is finished as an international player.

batting order played with to even out the experience, put our best player where he bats best and to give our match winner more protection.

we have to accept that wholesale changes should not happen now. dropping prior with swann retiring would rob the team of too much experience, plus an out of form prior is still better than bairstow in my view as a keeper.

we need to bat better. hopefully Anderson and broad have had time to recover during the last few days.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #74 on:** December 23, 2013, 10:17:13 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on December 23, 2013, 09:53:49 PM

my Xi for boxing day...

cook
carberry
bell
root
Pietersen
stokes
prior
Bresnan
broad (assuming fit)
Anderson
Monty

if broad isn't fit, we have to play Finn. you can't give a debut at this point so Rankin shouldn't play, tremlett is finished as an international player.

batting order played with to even out the experience, put our best player where he bats best and to give our match winner more protection.

we have to accept that wholesale changes should not happen now. dropping prior with swann retiring would rob the team of too much experience, plus an out of form prior is still better than bairstow in my view as a keeper.

we need to bat better. hopefully Anderson and broad have had time to recover during the last few days.

Surely out best batsmen where he bats eat would be Bell at 5??
And leave Root at 3 and stop messing him about in my opinion

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