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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #240 on: December 29, 2013, 12:33:21 AM »

If New balance made nice gloves their kit would look quality I think, but their gloves are abominations!
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #241 on: December 29, 2013, 12:38:08 AM »

Going to call it game over now. Can't see England pulling off a miricle victory from here, this whole series has been a bad joke!
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #242 on: December 29, 2013, 12:40:30 AM »

If New balance made nice gloves their kit would look quality I think, but their gloves are abominations!

Have you checked out the NB pads for retail.

I do not think you think it just gloves (which i do not mind) there pads are hideous
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« Reply #243 on: December 29, 2013, 12:43:50 AM »

Have you checked out the NB pads for retail.

I do not think you think it just gloves (which i do not mind) there pads are hideous
Last time I looked their only offering pads wise were those ambidextrous ones that seemed horrendously over priced.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #244 on: December 29, 2013, 12:53:01 AM »

Anyone else thinking this is Cook's last series as captain?
If/when England lose 5-0 he'll either jump or be pushed from the helm (with Flower going too and a major overhaul of coaching and back room staff).

That or nothing will change and England will struggle on as they are. Something has to change!
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #245 on: December 29, 2013, 01:00:43 AM »

Who take take over i can only think of one

Crazy i know KP...
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« Reply #246 on: December 29, 2013, 01:04:29 AM »

Who take take over i can only think of one

Crazy i know KP...
KP will no way be given the captaincy back due to what's happened in the past.

With Broad as T20 captain he must be near the top of the line to take over, I'd like to see Bell do it personally though.
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« Reply #247 on: December 29, 2013, 01:07:15 AM »

Could Ian Bell be a potential candidate to take over the reins? Looking at the established players in the English team, I can't see them going back to KP, maybe Broad or Anderson could be other options?
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« Reply #248 on: December 29, 2013, 01:09:06 AM »

If Cook is sacked/steps down

The next skipper would have to be someone who can inspire his teammates.

Can Bell do this? Not in my opinion.

Can Broad do this? Yeah in patches Broad has been able to carry England.

Not many other options.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #249 on: December 29, 2013, 01:13:22 AM »

Cook will keep the captaincy in my opinion. Flower is closer to the edge, but again who would replace him?
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« Reply #250 on: December 29, 2013, 01:14:57 AM »

Could Ian Bell be a potential candidate to take over the reins? Looking at the established players in the English team, I can't see them going back to KP, maybe Broad or Anderson could be other options?

By a process of elimination of senior players:

Cook - current Captain, tactically hopeless. Has to go in my opinion.

KP - too much previous to be given a 2nd stint.

Bell - potential. Done it at under 19 level but little experience of captaincy after that.

Prior - potential. Was vice captain before being dropped. Captains traditionally need to get in the side though.

Broad - potential. T20 captain, was probably appointed with future test captaincy in mind. His toys come out of the pram too easily at times which could be a problem.

Anderson - never captained before and is a self admitted grumpy so and so - can't see him as skipper.
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« Reply #251 on: December 29, 2013, 01:15:12 AM »

Yeah, I can't see them dropping Cook simply because there is no obvious candidate to replace him with. Personally, I think the current English set up is good, this was just an ill-fated tour from the beginning. The mentality of the English was not right and Australia came out firing. It would be an overreaction to axe Cook and Flower.
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« Reply #252 on: December 29, 2013, 01:29:29 AM »

Yeah, I can't see them dropping Cook simply because there is no obvious candidate to replace him with. Personally, I think the current English set up is good, this was just an ill-fated tour from the beginning. The mentality of the English was not right and Australia came out firing. It would be an overreaction to axe Cook and Flower.

Seriously a over reaction what 4-0 down against a side which if it is better marginally.

Have the victory's been marginal no it has been a embarrassment from start to finish.

Oh and one last point i do not want a captain who backs away from quick bowling make of that as you want..

To lose the way we have as stated previously is not like the 90/00 this is too evenly matched teams and England have been poor.

Something has to give this is not a blimp i have never seen England for so poor for so long and i have been watching a long time.

Australia are ok but let get one thing straight there not a great Australian team.

But they are 4 up....   
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« Reply #253 on: December 29, 2013, 01:35:01 AM »

Seriously a over reaction what 4-0 down against a side which if it is better marginally.

Have the victory's been marginal no it has been a embarrassment from start to finish.

To lose the way we have as stated previously is not like the 90/00 this is too evenly matched teams and England have been poor.

Something has to give this is not a blimp i have never seen England for so poor for so long and i have been watching a long time.

Australia are ok but let get one thing straight there not a great Australian team.

But they are 4 up....
Have to agree with you Dave. England simply haven't turned up. There was complacency in the ranks and it's come back to bite.

Are we all forgetting the fact Cook isn't that great a captain? When England were winning this was overlooked, but when under pressure it becomes obvious he hasn't got a Scooby what to do. It's not an overreaction at all in my mind, it's a necessary change for the better.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #254 on: December 29, 2013, 01:44:59 AM »

Cook hasn't done too badly as captain though has he? Assuming England lose today, his record stands at 9 wins, 5 losses and 6 draws whilst averaging 49.18 with the blade. Surely with there being no obvious replacement he has to stay? By comparison Clarke's record as captain is 16 wins, 10 losses and 7 draws, not that dissimilar to Cook's...
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