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[Wooly]

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Add Wooly to the list of Aussie haters.

 

you guys don't really hate Aussies, only when we are smacking your backsides.  Probably the same way we feel about you blokes. 

[joeljonno]

I agree it causes offence, especially from someone who is just not good enough which makes it more offensive.

It doesn't have to be offensive, just clever.

[Overdrive]

I agree it causes offence, especially from someone who is just not good enough which makes it more offensive.

Who cares who delivers it...its a team tactic. On the video i just posted, in the first 10 seconds Merv tells us that it is a team tactic amongst the Australians which they call 'verbal intimidation'.

[ProCricketer1982]

I agree it causes offence, especially from someone who is just not good enough which makes it more offensive.

What makes someone good enough to sledge?

Is Anderson able to sledge Warne? Maybe Haddin to sledge gilly? Not sure you can say 'isn't good enough' because where is that line. If you play amateur cricket I'd say you certainly aren't good enough. I'd also say half or more of the county circuit probably aren't either


Clever/amusing sledging (to fielders, batsmen and umpires!!) is great, unfortunately 99% of it is offensive and not clever

[joeljonno]

you guys don't really hate Aussies, only when we are smacking your backsides.  Probably the same way we feel about you blokes. 

To be fair, personally I really like the Aussies and 99.99% are ok. It is the odd one who use success to deliberately wind up people without having anything to back it up. Almost using other peoples success to mask his own failing in whatever they do.

I would guess it is mirrored in with the English attitude. One person will ruin it for the rest of them.

[Steveo1000]

It doesn't have to be offensive, just clever.

My point exactly. From someone who is not good enough it becomes offensive. From someone who is good enough and has respect it can be clever and affective.

[Steveo1000]

What makes someone good enough to sledge?

Is Anderson able to sledge Warne? Maybe Haddin to sledge gilly? Not sure you can say 'isn't good enough' because where is that line. If you play amateur cricket I'd say you certainly aren't good enough. I'd also say half or more of the county circuit probably aren't either


Clever/amusing sledging (to fielders, batsmen and umpires!!) is great, unfortunately 99% of it is offensive and not clever

It's All relative surely, so it doesn't matter what level you play at. At any level of cricket, the crap bloke who chirps up and can't back it up gets hammered by the opposition. That's just the way it goes mate.

[joeljonno]

My point exactly. From someone who is not good enough it becomes offensive. From someone who is good enough and has respect it can be clever and affective.

Clarke threatened a number 11 batsman with the potential of a broken arm. That is not clever, just intimidatory.

Clarke is probably the best batsman on show in the series.

How is that any more worthy than if Bailey had said it?

[Overdrive]

Clarke threatened a number 11 batsman with the potential of a broken arm. That is not clever, just intimidatory.

Clarke is probably the best batsman on show in the series.

How is that any more worthy than if Bailey had said it?

See post above re: Verbal intimidation

[Manormanic]

It is the odd one who use success to deliberately wind up people without having anything to back it up.

This.  Anyone else wonder why Johnson is giving it the big I am all of a sudden after years of being a laughing stock?

[Steveo1000]

Clarke threatened a number 11 batsman with the potential of a broken arm. That is not clever, just intimidatory.

Clarke is probably the best batsman on show in the series.

How is that any more worthy than if Bailey had said it?

I did say can be clever and affective. That example is completely unacceptable and should have resulted in ban. In my opinion.

[Steveo1000]

Not very good with the bold type lol

[Overdrive]

This.  Anyone else wonder why Johnson is giving it the big I am all of a sudden after years of being a laughing stock?

He seems to think that your only as good as your last match...in which case he is a magnificent (No Swearing Please).

[joeljonno]

I did say can be clever and affective. That example is completely unacceptable and should have resulted in ban. In my opinion.

But the point is, why does it matter who says it?

A better example would be McGrath/Brandes and Brandes quick riposte to a McGrath sledge. Brandes is not good enough a cricketer to give it to McGrath, yet he does and it is clever,so it is right.

If it is clever enough, no matter how good you are, sledging is fine.

If it is blantantly disrespectful,doesn't matter if you are the best player in the World, shouldn't be allowed.

(apologies, just realised, possibly not the most thoughtful of choices being the Sydney "pink" test. Sorry for any upset).

[Steveo1000]

But the point is, why does it matter who says it?

A better example would be McGrath/Brandes and Brandes quick riposte to a McGrath sledge. Brandes is not good enough a cricketer to give it to McGrath, yet he does and it is clever,so it is right.

If it is clever enough, no matter how good you are, sledging is fine.

If it is blantantly disrespectful,doesn't matter if you are the best player in the World, shouldn't be allowed.

(apologies, just realised, possibly not the most thoughtful of choices being the Sydney "pink" test. Sorry for any upset).

In principle clever sledging (Let's ignore the Clarke example) is fine from anyone. All I'm saying is that in my opinion sledging has to be backed up with something, otherwise you end up looking like a bit of a tit.