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[Jason_Yuan]

I have a trigger movement of starting from leg stumps with back foot near the crease, as the bowler running near the umpire, i just step across and backwards with my back foot half way in the crease and on middle stump, i guess its just personal preferences, i m a movement kind of person so i cant be still hence the reason why i got that trigger movement..

[brokenbat]

Thanks guys. I've seen Haynes talk about his back and across. Just doesn't work for me as I struggle to keep my weight forward, and am late on the full ball.
I think I will try my no-trigger "solution" in the nets today (standing a bit further back in the crease to give myself some time) first, as I deem that to be less drastic a change. Fingers crossed!

[ProCricketer1982]

Just did 3-4 hours and did some experimenting. I tend to stand still rather than trigger and can cope upto about 85 ish on the machine (yes I got someone to randomise the deliveries). I then moved to using the back and across and I found the back foot play was better BUT the spearing yorka was an issue. My impression was if you get 85+ bowlers and play mostly back foot like pros then it's the best method. If you play Steve smith clubbie style then standing still is probably better. At the end of he day trial and error and find what works for you.

Oh and be realistic on the speeds you are actually ever likely to face! No point worrying or training for 80+ if most will be 65-70 for instance

[acko109]

i find the press is easier.. just press forward a tad then if the bowler bangs it in push off using your front foot..

[Bulldog Cricket]

Just did 3-4 hours and did some experimenting. I tend to stand still rather than trigger and can cope upto about 85 ish on the machine (yes I got someone to randomise the deliveries). I then moved to using the back and across and I found the back foot play was better BUT the spearing yorka was an issue. My impression was if you get 85+ bowlers and play mostly back foot like pros then it's the best method. If you play Steve smith clubbie style then standing still is probably better. At the end of he day trial and error and find what works for you.

Oh and be realistic on the speeds you are actually ever likely to face! No point worrying or training for 80+ if most will be 65-70 for instance

Adie. Get some video up of you facing 85. Hats off that is serious pace. 70 has always been fast enough for me on the machine.

[procricket]

Stand still until release keep head still hit the bloody ball.

At that speed if your finding it comfortable your playing at the wrong level.

I was practicing the short ball last year at 82 mph for a laugh it had the last laugh it broke my albion lid around the temple..

[ProCricketer1982]

Stand still until release keep head still hit the bloody ball.

At that speed if your finding it comfortable your playing at the wrong level.

I was practicing the short ball last year at 82 mph for a laugh it had the last laugh it broke my albion lid around the temple..

Didn't say it was easy!  Tbh I get out to medium (No Swearing Please) as I get bored and get carried away trying to smash it. Proper bowlers make it interesting plus it's more fun keeping them out as it annoys them. Ore due to the effort required to bowl.

I was fully strettoned up too! Just in case as it's too bloody easy to get it wrong

[uknsaunders]

I think a trigger helps in certain situations ie. Back and across to quickies for a little extra time or a slight forward press for the spinners. However you need to be still at delivery and if you can stay still without triggering then do so.

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[Bulldog Cricket]

There is a good bit somewhere by Duncan fletcher and trescothick about using a trigger to spin bowling. It's a very good read.

[brokenbat]

so you guys think in my case (playing high pace) - its either standing still at the crease (my current, comfortable method, that fails a bit against serious pace), or doing the back and across? my proposed "no trigger" solution of standing still, but a bit deeper to buy myself time is no good?

[tim2000s]

What kind of pace are you really facing when you play against opposition? Are you really seeing 80mph?

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[ProCricketer1982]

What kind of pace are you really facing when you play against opposition? Are you really seeing 80mph?

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Exactly this, you have to realistically know what speed you'll face as the trigger really only helps (IMO for what it's worth) against true 'pace' (pace in a pros world).

I stand deep in my crease as I find it gives me more time to react to the ball. A length ball becomes back of and so hitable. If the bowler is medium plod then you can always go forward but at the amateur level it's amazing how many 'pace' bowlers drop it too short as they have a bit of a thing for it.

[brokenbat]

its all relative to one's skills, right? if i normally play 60mph, and then see someone bowling 70mph, well that 70mph guy is my mitchel johnson.

[Buzz]

its all relative to one's skills, right? if i normally play 60mph, and then see someone bowling 70mph, well that 70mph guy is my mitchel johnson.

I don't think so - I think there is a balance of natural reaction times involved too. My belief is that the difference between 65-70 isn't much, but the difference between 70 and 75 is more marked for an average club player.

This is similar to quest for 90 mph bowlers as the difference for a test player between 85 mph bowling and 90+ is significant.

[Neon Cricket]

I can see where Buzz is coming from, personally I feel quite comfortable with anything up to around 70/75, after that the difference is pace is certainly more noticeable I would say