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Ravi Bopara...again.
« on: January 26, 2014, 11:12:53 AM »

Was unlucky enough to have sat through a whole days cricket to watch that ending, however I also keep BBC live text on and saw something Dirk Nannes had said about Ravi Bopara...

"Every time we've said in this series about Ravi, 'how on earth has he got out there?' there's no excuse for ever lifting your foot in that situation. That's a village cricket error. If England lose this game Ravi Bopara should be hung, drawn and quartered."

Fair?
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Re: Ravi Bopara...again.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 11:14:01 AM »

I struggle to see how Bopara keeps his position in the one day team.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 11:15:32 AM »

Definately wasn't out in my opinion. The bails bounced and came back down while his foot was up but weren't dislodged til his foot was down.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2014, 11:19:08 AM »

England's ODI player of 2013 which is why he is in the team. 

If you are looking for reasons why we lost, how about Morgan hitting to mid off and Root scooping to fine leg when there was no need to play big shots with the equation comfortably less than a run a ball
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Re: Ravi Bopara...again.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2014, 11:22:35 AM »

England's ODI player of 2013 which is why he is in the team. 

If you are looking for reasons why we lost, how about Morgan hitting to mid off and Root scooping to fine leg when there was no need to play big shots with the equation comfortably less than a run a ball

A case of "oo it's the power play, better go big!" When the game situation says there is no need.
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Re: Ravi Bopara...again.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 11:23:03 AM »

Definately wasn't out in my opinion. The bails bounced and came back down while his foot was up but weren't dislodged til his foot was down.

From the behind Wade camera angle you can clearly see the bail in the air and his foot off the ground... Out!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 11:24:02 AM »

England's ODI player of 2013 which is why he is in the team. 

If you are looking for reasons why we lost, how about Morgan hitting to mid off and Root scooping to fine leg when there was no need to play big shots with the equation comfortably less than a run a ball

Root should be hung by his balls for that terrible shot choice
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2014, 11:24:45 AM »

From the behind Wade camera angle you can clearly see the bail in the air and his foot off the ground... Out!!!

But you can see from the front angle that it drops back down then bounces out.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 11:25:02 AM »

I'm sorry but the decision was made by umpire Dharmasena of Sri Lanka.

Look back. This is NOT the first time the guy has made a 'guess' on a third umpire wicket and been proved to get it wrong.

It is about time they have two umpires in on third umpire duty and have to come to a unanimous decision. It is unforgivable to allow people to get away with these decisions with the power of technology. In Rugby, they are given clear instruction by refs. They either say "Is there any reason WHY I cannot award the try" (If they are sure a try has been scored) OR "Is there any evidence a try has been scored" (If they are unsure).

I'm sorry - but it was very unfortunate for Ravi that this was allowed to happen.

PS. You could see one side of the bail was in the air, the other side was shielded by Wade. From the front angle the bail was clearly down. TBH we are proving he is not out. If it is not clear to all of us, how is it suddenly 100% clear to an umpire?!
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 11:25:40 AM »

Absolutely unfair to blame Bopara...he did the sensible thing to stick around till the end only to be undone by a controversial decision. Root should be hanged for that brain less shot..no reason why he had to play the ramp shot then after getting to 50+.. Ravi is an asset with his bowling and batting...i think he is wasted low down the order with Stokes promoted up the order ( another brainless decision imo)
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2014, 11:31:23 AM »

I have lost count of the number of times Ravi has got England into a winnable position and then bottled it. I think he is supremely talented but it's time to move on.

Nothing between his ears.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 11:31:36 AM »

But you can see from the front angle that it drops back down then bounces out.

The bail was dislodged when his foot was in the air... Yes it bounced back and then fell off... Which still means it was dislodged and therefore out.. Correct decision
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 11:32:52 AM »

I'm sorry but the decision was made by umpire Dharmasena of Sri Lanka.

Look back. This is NOT the first time the guy has made a 'guess' on a third umpire wicket and been proved to get it wrong.

It is about time they have two umpires in on third umpire duty and have to come to a unanimous decision. It is unforgivable to allow people to get away with these decisions with the power of technology. In Rugby, they are given clear instruction by refs. They either say "Is there any reason WHY I cannot award the try" (If they are sure a try has been scored) OR "Is there any evidence a try has been scored" (If they are unsure).

I'm sorry - but it was very unfortunate for Ravi that this was allowed to happen.

PS. You could see one side of the bail was in the air, the other side was shielded by Wade. From the front angle the bail was clearly down. TBH we are proving he is not out. If it is not clear to all of us, how is it suddenly 100% clear to an umpire?!

As Healey stated only one side of the bail needs to be in the air to be classed as dislodged
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Re: Ravi Bopara...again.
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2014, 11:33:38 AM »

I'm sorry but the decision was made by umpire Dharmasena of Sri Lanka.

Look back. This is NOT the first time the guy has made a 'guess' on a third umpire wicket and been proved to get it wrong.

It is about time they have two umpires in on third umpire duty and have to come to a unanimous decision. It is unforgivable to allow people to get away with these decisions with the power of technology. In Rugby, they are given clear instruction by refs. They either say "Is there any reason WHY I cannot award the try" (If they are sure a try has been scored) OR "Is there any evidence a try has been scored" (If they are unsure).

I'm sorry - but it was very unfortunate for Ravi that this was allowed to happen.

PS. You could see one side of the bail was in the air, the other side was shielded by Wade. From the front angle the bail was clearly down. TBH we are proving he is not out. If it is not clear to all of us, how is it suddenly 100% clear to an umpire?!

George dobell called it right when he called Dharmesena a hatstand
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2014, 11:34:49 AM »

The bail was dislodged when his foot was in the air... Yes it bounced back and then fell off... Which still means it was dislodged and therefore out.. Correct decision

It wasn't 'permanently' dislodged though until it bounced back off the stumps the second time which is what the laws state they must be.
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